Hi Bravo

Not sure where you are these days. I posted this comment on Araminta’s blog.

“This is bread and butter stuff for Bravo. He has, probably, spent his entire adult life, reading, writing and implementing SOP’s aka Standing Operating Procedures. In the Forces, there is a SOP for every eventuality.”

I made the mistake of replying to her comment to me:-

“Yes, indeed, Toc, I am well aware of that; it’s just a pity when the SOP’s occasionally go pear-shaped. It does happen.
The best laid plans and etc.
There is unfortunately no SOP for life.”

This of course has been edited to miss out the part where she mentioned having experience of the matter of SOP’s. I then asked her if she had been a member of the SAS or just a member ot the WRAC. She deleted that! Not a problem really, I thought my original comment to have been the general flavour of the post and of interest to some?

Not to worry, her post her edit. My post my edit.:-)

26 thoughts on “Hi Bravo”

  1. Three comments have been removed, two from Tocino and one from Araminta.

    If a comment has been edited, it is impossible to tell, and impossible to recover the original.

    I do not understand what is going on here, perhaps Araminta and Tocino could both explain more fully?

  2. Bearsy,

    this was my comment to Araminta. I quoted her reply to Bravo. She then posted a reply telling me that she had experience in SOPs. She deleted that and altered her own reply. Not a worry really. As I said, her post her edit but at the end of the day, I thought I had posted a reasonable and informed reply.

  3. It is every Author’s right to delete any comments from their post – and there is no compulsion to provide reasons for that deletion.

    I’m, obviously, late to this and I may have misunderstood the situation, but there appears to be a charge that a poster’s comment was edited by an Author.

    If an Author edits a poster’s comment – it is expected that they note that fact on the altered comment.

    I see no reason why an Author should not be able to change their own comments – although if the comment is changed to mean something other than was originally intended I would expect an Author to make a comment to that fact.

  4. Boadicea :

    Should I have saved my breath to cool my porridge?

    It wasn’t a flippant comment.

    I am a little tired of repeating that Authors have the right to delete comments, with or without reasons, as they wish – I will add, however, that I would prefer that Authors do not use this power capriciously.

    I am appalled that any Author should think to use the ability to edit comments without making it absolutely clear that they have done so. It is completely against the spirit of the site.

  5. your ridiculous assertions

    Hang about, what’s this about? I see nothing ridiculous in Toc’s comments. This is not MyT, folks.

  6. Sorry Boa. As I said, her post her edit. What annoys me is the fact tha even now, she is not telling the truth and that she is insinuating that I’m a liar. That is not true and I’m bloody well annoyed.

  7. I’ve said my piece – and I made no accusations.

    It is because I refuse to pass judgement on deletions that I insist that there be no need to justify such actions – I have enough problems working out whether other comments should be deemed ‘offensive’ or not.

  8. Thank you, Boadicea.

    Very fair. I have made no accusations either, other than “ridiculous assertions”.

    I don’t think you should have been involved in this at all, in my opinion.

  9. Bugger this for a game of soldiers.
    Boadicea will not allow me to say what I think (I get censored before I post!),

    Last sentence removed. Boadicea

  10. As a general observation, folk who are involved in one thing or another can be a bit touchy about it. Persec covers it, know what I mean?

  11. Attention seeking self justifying clap-trap, Tocino, but maybe that is a bit harsh.

    You are most welcome to delete this comment, and you will not hear one tiny squeak of protest from me. 🙂

  12. As Boadicea keeps saying, any comment may be removed without reason and without mention by the owner of the post.

    But if comments are altered by the owner of the post, a note must be added to say so (except when a typo is corrected at the commenter’s behest).

    In general, the modification of a commenter’s comment by the post owner, particularly when the sense is changed, or the modification of an owner’s comment by the owner, where the sense is changed, is deplored.

  13. At the risk of stirring up more unrest, I feel obliged to remark that one cannot have a civilised discussion if comments are altered without clear notification and reasonable and stated cause.

  14. Bearsy :

    As Boadicea keeps saying, any comment may be removed without reason and without mention by the owner of the post.

    But if comments are altered by the owner of the post, a note must be added to say so (except when a typo is corrected at the commenter’s behest).

    In general, the modification of a commenter’s comment by the post owner, particularly when the sense is changed, or the modification of an owner’s comment by the owner, where the sense is changed, is deplored.

    Thank you Bearsy.

  15. I agree CWJ!

    On the other hand, I would hope that Authors feel that a genuine grievance can be aired – in this case the alteration of comments. It was, I believe, necessary to bring that to my attention.

    I try to keep the site as ‘rule-free’ as possible, trusting in the maturity of Authors. It is not always easy to foresee all the difficulties which might arise, especially since it would not occur to me that anyone would alter anyone’s comments without saying that they had done so.

    Had the problem not been aired, no one would have known that it existed, I could not have made a ruling, and we might well have lost a valued Author – something I am loathe to do.

  16. Boadicea.

    The “problem” was not a problem, and the so called airing of this has lost you an author, but certainly I don’t feel particularly valued.

    Many thanks, I have enjoyed this site but I have explained exactly what happened and why.

  17. Araminta, your predictable attempt to gain the moral high ground is doomed to failure, as your actions and comments here speak for themselves.

    Clearly you were not the “valued author” to whom Boadicea referred.

    It is a shame when any author is lost to the Chariot, and many of your contributions have been excellent, but you have latterly imported the same trouble-making attitude you are known for on the Dark Side.

    Don’t slam the door on your way out, there’s a dear.

  18. Bearsy.

    I think I am more than aware that I am not. I thought I made that clear in my comment; but obviously not.

    Thank you for your opinion. I believe I have made the right decision, in view of your comment.

    My thanks again to Boadicea, and I wish you both well.

  19. Araminta

    All Authors are valued on this site.

    It was a problem, and no amount of denying it will alter that fact. It would not matter who used their power as an Author to change comments, I would have reacted in exactly the same way. I try to deal as even handedly as I can.

    I am always saddened when people decide to leave the site. But, I’m not prepared to bend my sense of what is right and wrong to keep them here at any price.

  20. Error – mea culpa. We had thought that you had deleted your account. Delighted to see you haven’t – it was, of course, registered as “detectivemouse”, not “araminta”. Both of your comments are now visible.

  21. My apologies, Araminta. We thought you had removed your Account.

    I will repost my last sentence – which I removed when I thought it was too late.

    “Your account will remain open should you reconsider your decision.”

    🙂

  22. You are very kind, Boadicea.

    I didn’t do anything, but I was a bit confused.

    I have emailed you.

    It’s late here, so I must go to bed.

    Goodnight to you both.

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