Dead right

There’s a nice story in the DT about the Dead Sea. Apparently it all but disappeared 120,000 years ago when things hotted up in the region but it returned, salted but not deterred, and has kept on evaporating quite contentedly until its neighbours started robbing it of fresh water fairly recently.

Now I don’t take much notice of climate conferences and stuff but this news seems to me to confirm my suspicions that our climate is pretty cyclical and only extremely determined efforts from homo sapiens to change it will make much difference in the long run.

PS This might also be one in the eye for some of our Fundamentalist friends whose Creation apparently came later.

Author: Janus

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9 thoughts on “Dead right”

  1. Janus

    I debated with myself whether to say this or keep silent – but, since I am a firm believer in the notion that if I complain – I must also praise!

    I don’t care where you got the picture since it doesn’t say – and it’s a great picture. And the bit of information you’ve given has most definitely enticed me to ‘go and read more’.

    I went to the Dead Sea once upon a when. My main reason for going was because it was end point of a tour to Jericho, Masada and Qumran.

    The Jericho visit was a quick squiz at a brick wall which could have been from any time and anywhere before being whisked off to buy dates and gruesome souvenirs. I will admit that the dates were the best I’ve ever eaten.

    The Qumran ‘visit’ consisted of the guide pointing a finger at the ‘cave of discovery of the Dead Sea Rolls”, which I missed since we were going too fast. A few seconds later he pointed a finger and said over there lies Qumran. Well how wonderful!

    The Masada visit could have been as memorable. I am very unhappy with heights. I have a big problem with stairs that are simply planks of wood winding up the side of a mountain, and even more of a problem with hand-rails which look out over nothing… Consequently, I took myself to the mountain side, kept my eyes looking upwards and, thus, totally missed seeing a great lump of rock sticking out of the mountain until I was made aware of its presence by a pain in my head and blood pouring down my face. The tour guide insisted on sending me down to the bottom. I glued myself to a wooden plank stair like a limpet and refused to move. Fortunately there was a doctor in the group, who poured a bottle of water over my head and said I would be OK… The highlight of my day!

    When we finally arrived at the Dead Sea, I was informed that I was expected to get into a bathing costume, and plaster myself with mud… I found a nice quiet spot and had a drink. I am really not into mud-baths.

    However, back on topic… any real climate scientist and any historian knows full well that the earth’s climate has changed cyclically since Day 1 of its creation and will continue to do so.

    Mankind has certainly had an effect on local environments, whether it be the deforestation of Ancient Greece or the establishment of Canberra in Oz.

    But mankind being the cause of climate change? No way.

  2. P.S. On my last day in Israel, I got a taxi from the hotel in Tel-Aviv to go to the Museum of the Dead Sea Scrolls in Jerusalem. I told the driver of my disappointment at not seeing Qumran – he offered to take me there and to the Museum and then to catch my plane. It would cost me £70.

    Being a great believer in the fact I might never walk that particular path again – I accepted the offer.

    I spent the day in the company of an Israeli who gave me his ‘take’ on Israel, insisted on buying me water to walk around Qumran and got me to the airport in time to catch my plane back to the UK.

    Fantastic and Memorable Day! I will never walk that path again.

  3. Nice picture Janus. I cannot disagree with the main thrust of your argument. However, I would take issue with you over your last remark.

    You said, “This might also be one in the eye for some of our Fundamentalist friends whose Creation apparently came later.”

    I am reminded of the comment made by Joan of Arc during her trial.

    Question at Trial “In what likeness did Saint Michael appear to you?”
    “I did not see a crown: I know nothing of his dress.”

    Question at Trial: “Was he naked?”
    “Do you think God has not wherewithal to clothe him?”

    Were I a Creationist, which, I hasten to add, I am not, I would respond something along the lines of, ‘Do you think that God has not the wherewithal to create fossils?’

    The thing is, you cannot logically confront faith with science, or vice versa. Faith, by definition, ignores the absence of physical proof. You will never stick one in the eye of the Fundamentalists by such methods. To do that you will have to use their own theology to destroy their arguments.

  4. On a more relevant topic, it occurred to me a long time ago, though I do not have the engineering qualifications to determine whether it is remotely feasible or economically viable, that Jordan and Israel could garnish huge amounts of hydroelectric power by building a pipeline from the Mediterranean/Red Sea to the Dead Sea and using the siphon effect – The Dead Sea being 415 m below sea level – to run turbines.

    I now see that the idea is being considered. Clever me.

  5. Sipu, nice try! “‘Do you think that God has not the wherewithal to create fossils”. Why on earth would he want to do that? To amuse 7th grade pupils? To fool the unbelievers? Gimme a break. 🙂

  6. Boa, a rich source of material as I’m sure you know, is Google with the key words ‘(topic) pics’. That was the source of my pic here. Thank you for the pat on the back(side).

    Btw your comments reminded me that I visited said region 20 years ago. I ‘did’ the Dead sea and Masada including a death-defying ride in the cable-car and climb up the rickety wooden ‘bridge’ to the top. I still shiver to recall them.

  7. Janus :

    Sipu, nice try! “‘Do you think that God has not the wherewithal to create fossils”. Why on earth would he want to do that? To amuse 7th grade pupils? To fool the unbelievers? Gimme a break. :-)

    Janus, any true believer would tell you that it is not for us to question the workings of God. Why did he give us appendix? So 7th graders could have them removed?

    As I said, you cannot beat believers using your logic, you have to use their theology. If you really want to do so, you have to play by their rules which means studying their religion. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

    If destroying faiths with observations and arguments such as yours were that simple, there would be no religion left.

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