25 thoughts on “Another View”

  1. Sipu, I have read your fairly long post, and wish that I could find the time to give it the full and proper response that it deserves.
    Sadly, for reasons I am not repared to give here, I don’t have the time currently, therefore it must suffice to say that I feel as if I have found a soul mate. I agree with just about every word.
    Covid was a scam.
    Russia was heavily provoked, as was Hamas and the Palestinians.

  2. I am not bothered about comments re Covid conspiracies.

    I am somewhat bothered about support for the illegal invasion of a sovereign country by Russia, and by Putin’s demand that that same sovereign country should not be free to ally itself to whomsoever it wants. I haven’t followed this particular event in much detail – but it’s certainly the first time I’ve read of the Ukraine mistreating its ‘Russian’ citizens. Indeed, I believe Putin was told he would be met with flower-carrying supporters the minute his army stepped over the border – that patently was not true.

    However, I am appalled that anyone would think that Hamas and the people of Gaza’s delight in the atrocities carried out by Hamas are in any way ‘justifiable’. That is anathema to me. And there is more than sufficient evidence to show that the reports of those atrocities are real and verifiable.

    This is something I have followed with some horror. Hamas’s declared aim is to murder the total population of Israel.

    I am aware that the settlement of Israel was not bloodless, but neither were the actions of those countries surrounding Israel. I am also aware that many Israelis are not happy with Netenyahu – and he will face a reckoning when the dust finally settles.

    This is a war, started by Hamas, and Israel is within its rights, in my opinion, to finish the war begun by Hamas and their supporters in Gaza. It is not a grab for more land.

    Whatever, I will not allow my site to be a vehicle for Palestinian Propoganda. Full. Stop.

  3. Ah well, Boadicea, I guess it is your right to censor posts with which you disagree. But you must realise that you are as guilty as any other person or entity that engages in silencing alternative points of view. By all means disagree with my opinions, but on what basis can you deny others the right to consider them, other than your ownership of this platform?

    Clearly, I am not alone in my position, and I am not talking about Muslims and Arabs. There are plenty of people who have no Middle Eastern connection who are appaled by the way that the Palestinians have been treated by Israel over the past 75 years. At no point did I endorse the actions of Hamas. I merely stated that I understood their motives.

    By deleting the entire content of my post, you have denied others the opportunity to consider the reasons for my stance. Those videos are all available on YouTube which despite its censorious (is that the right word) record has felt no need to remove them.

    Likewise, Wikipedia provides details of the Deir Vassin Massacre the consequences of this are felt today, 75 years later. I do not see you condemn that action, nor that of the King David Hotel bombing. But those are just two of hundreds of atrocities committed by the Zionists.

    Let me put it like this, your emperor has no clothes.

  4. 1. Russia is the master of propaganda. A favourite Russian tactic is to blend truth and fiction, knowing full well that their rivals also engage in propaganda. What Western propaganda gets wrong about Russia, Russia corrects — but then inverts the original (intentional) error. In short, a half-truth is given in response to a half-truth. The truth, ultimately, is a mixture of both arguments. Russia and the West played dirty games in Ukraine. Ukraine, as the second Soviet Republic, is a product of the same system as Russia and they often engage in the same tactics. They have many of the same social, economic and political problems. A profound difference between the two is that Ukraine has sought openness and has taken a different path than Russia. You know what Ukraine’s problems are because Ukraine lets you see them. It’s like comparing the USA’s social and economic woes to China’s. Whatever their (numerous) failures and shortcomings, the Americans don’t try to hide them. China creates mirages and builds Potemkin cities/towns/resorts to craft a desired image.

    However much you despise the West and want to live under Putin, there are some facts that cannot be denied. Prior to 2014, public opinion in Ukraine was fairly evenly divided — and elections were a close-fought thing. Relations between Ukrainians and Russians were easy. They saw themselves as brother-nations. In western Ukraine, the areas more strongly influenced by Poland and Austria, people were more inclined to be pro-Western. In eastern and southern Ukraine, the hearth of East Slavic civilisation, people were inclined to be more pro-Russian/Belarusian. Since 2014, elections have become increasingly lopsided. After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the seizure of Ukrainian territory, there has been a wedge driven between the two. It was Russia’s actions that caused this, not Ukraine. Since 2022, any remaining fraternal feelings have been shattered. Even in most Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine, sentiment has become anti-Russian. Russian-speakers were not, actually, abused in Ukraine. Nor, for that matter, was speaking Russian banned in Ukraine. Odessa, Kiev, Mariupol, etc. remained overwhelmingly Russian-speaking. My Russian teacher is from Ukraine. She speaks both Russian and Ukrainian as native languages. She never had problems based on language. Most Ukrainian singers sang in Russian, many Ukrainian vloggers spoke in Russian, to appeal to a larger audience. It was only after 2022 that there was a rapid shift towards Ukrainian as Russian became the language of the enemy. Russian, incidentally, is a dialect of Ukrainian. Ukraine is the hearth, the mother-country of the East Slavs. Russia grew out of those who migrated northwards and eastwards.

    Russia was not “provoked”. Russia played the same geopolitical game in Ukraine as did the West — and lost. Likewise, the US played the same game in Cuba — and lost. You also seem to think that this is only about Russia and Ukraine. It’s not. China’s behind this game and was treating it as a test-run for Taiwan. They wanted to gauge just how the West would respond, both in order to test its resolve and to see how far its response would go.

    As for Israel… Your anti-Semitism, Sipu, is truly horrific. Palestinians learnt how to wage effective propaganda wars from the Soviets.

    Boadicea: Hear, hear!

  5. It is a shame that views differing to Boadice’s are taken down. It reduces the value of this once well used site to a meaningless echo chamber.
    It’s a shame, but hey ho, there are plenty of other forums where views and ideas can be exchanged.
    Enjoy, patting each other on the back.
    I’m gone!

  6. Granted that I don’t always agree with Christopher, I think I liked his comment best of all those appearing here.

    At the other end of the spectrum, I think Boadicea’s deletion of Sipu’s original post was shameful – just as much so as Hamas’ behavior – and fervently hope that she’ll reconsider and restore it. Is this what our poor tired old world is coming to, removing anything that one may personally find unpleasant? At least that spares us having to give it any thought.

    I’ll tell you what: Let’s boost antisemitism, join the “cancel culture” mob and do away with Israel altogether. What do you think would happen then? Why, the “ragheads” (am I allowed to say that?) would fight each other, naturally. Armed conflict is deeply embedded in the history of that part of the world and I see no likelihood of that changing now. I’m sure (but am too lazy to check and verify) that I’ve at least once opined here that the entire Middle East should be cut off, surrounded by an impenetrable barrier. We could, of course, check on them at intervals to see whether any land has been cleared for better uses than combat.

    Another thing I’m sure I’ve previously said is that I’m sometimes glad that, considering my advanced years, I’m not likely to be around much longer to see how the human race further deteriorates. As things stand at the moment, we’ve got Israel/Palestine, Russia/Ukraine, Myanmar and I forget what else to fill our plates. Oh, right, now Venezuela wants to grab some territory from Guyana. On top of all those issues, we have the aggressive posturing of China and North Korea to occupy our minds. Oh, yes, there’s also the little matter of violent crime in our cities. Hardly a day goes by when the morning TV news doesn’t carry a story of at least one shooting overnight. I’m almighty glad to live in a peaceful and quiet semirural area, where I can recall only one killing – and that was somehow related to a drug deal gone bad.

    A propos of nothing in particular, yesterday, December 7, was both Pearl Harbor Day and the start of Hanukkah. Someone with more energy than I have at the moment might be able to make something of that.

    But please, Boadicea, put Sipu’s post back, if for no other reason that I’d like to read it again.

    Mumble, grumble…

  7. Sipu: Intelligent input. Then again, you’ve always been a bit too close to Mosley for your own good at times.

    Gaz: It was most likely bullocks. Palestinians are very good at propaganda. For example, using pictures from Yemen or Syria and saying that it was the West Bank or Gaza. They’ve also been known to reuse the same pictures multiple times and to hire actors to stage things.

  8. G’day Cog –

    I’m not sure where the bill sits right now, but it was passed by the Reps a while back (Lower House) and will be approved by the Senate sometime “soon”.

    What bill? The one that makes publication/promulgation of misinformation a crime in Australia, the definition of what constitutes misinformation to be agreed by the pollies at the time on a case-by-case basis. Yes, really (that’s a woke Labor government for you – very unAustralian).

    Under these circumstances there is no way the Chariot will republish the load of Islam-sucking balderdash that Sipu posted, supported by others who should be ashamed of themselves. If they want to go and play with representatives of the Cult of Death, the Chariot will be a better, nicer place from their absence.

    If you really want to read it again and to watch the evil videos, I’ll gladly sent you a copy, end-to-end encrypted.

  9. Christopher, as I have alluded in the past, I have often wondered whether or not you are some form of AI machine, (emphasis on the A rather than the I) but the crassness of your comments leads me to think that you must actually be a real person. No machine could ever be that foolish.

    There are two points in particular that demonstrate my point.
    Leaving aside the fact that I spoke of Israel and Zionists as opposed to Jews, you made a strong attack against me for my original post, when it is perfectly clear you had not seen all, or quite probably any of it. Your comment to Gaz, “It was most likely bullocks. Palestinians are very good at propaganda. For example, using pictures from Yemen or Syria and saying that it was the West Bank or Gaza.” That remark kind of gives the game away.

    You said, “As for Israel… Your anti-Semitism, Sipu, is truly horrific.” For your information, not all Jews are Zionists nor are they Israelis. There are many Jews who deplore Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. Indeed, many Sephardic Jews were vehemently against the Zionist movement promulgated by the Ashkenazis under Herzl and Weizmann. In fact Herzl would quite likely have accepted an alternative to Palestine.

    Secondly, your observation that the Palestinians are very good at propaganda, which they apparently learned from the Soviets, is, given the context, hilarious. Propaganda was invented by God’s Chosen People, so much so that Goebbels studied and sought to recruit Edward Bernays, nephew of Sigmund Freud, a pioneer in the field of propaganda and considered to be the father of public relations. If you have not heard of Bernays, not that you would ever admit that you had not, I don’t need to tell you what he got up to, just check him out on Wikipedia or a host of other sources. Not a pleasant individual by any stetch of the imagination, but one whose character and techniques have been emulated a million times by his brethren on Madison Avenue, Hollywood, ‘Burbank’ and the lobbies in DC. The Chosenists have led the way in public relations, lobbying and advertising ever since, and if you think that Israel and the more fervent Zionists are not masters at the art of propaganda, then, as the saying goes, I have a bridge in Sand Francisco to sell you. Have you not heard of the Israel Lobby in Washington? When discussing the strengths and weaknesses of the two sides in this conflict, then choosing propaganda as one of the Palestinians’ strong points, was something of an own goal, otherwise known as a pratfall.

    I take it you did not see the picture of a Palestinian father holding the dead body of his baby grandson who had been killed by the IDF. The Jerusalem Post falsely claimed it was actually a doll. Look it up.

    Further to my point, in his seduction of Arthur Balfour and other members of the British Government, arch Zionist Chaim Weizmann said . “At first the camel sticks one leg in the tent, and eventually it slips into it. This must be our policy.” He understood propaganda alright.

    As for the Soviets being experts at propaganda, let’s not forget the politburo was not exactly devoid of Chosenists, especially during the early years, and I suspect that they had a tiny role to play in dictating the direction taken and methods used by the Communist Party. I am not even going to mention Marx, Engels and Trotsky.

    I do not want to sink too deeply into the ad hominem trap, but I do think it would be useful for you to realise that not everybody is convinced by your intellectual pretensions. Educated you may be, but education, as I have pointed out before, does not equate to intelligence. Your flawed reasoning and arguments demonstrate your short comings in that particular area. In your attack on me, you mention Mosley, who for all his faults, was a man of integrity, courage and intellect. You on the other hand remind me of the Nils Crane character, only you posses twice the pretentiousness, but sadly, none of the wit.

    Now lets move on to Bearsy.
    What a load of cobblers and what utter cowardice to resort to an as-yet to be enacted bill that would legislate against the promulgation of misinformation to defend Boadicea’s uncalled for censorship of my post. For a start, there was nothing remotely contentious that I stated as fact. The title of the post is very specific. I was expressing “Another View”. The clue is in the title.

    In any event, had he done any research on the matter, he would have known that even if I had promulgated malicious falsehoods Boadicea would have suffered no repercussions. Read “Australia’s misinformation law explained (crikey.com.au)” https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/07/06/acma-misinformation-disinformation-law/

    Elsewhere, “The draft legislation, released for consultation earlier this year would have allowed the Australian Communications and Media Authority to require social media companies to toughen their policies on “content [that] is false, misleading or deceptive, and where the provision of that content on the service is reasonably likely to cause or contribute to serious harm”.
    “Labor to overhaul misinformation bill after objections over freedom of speech | Australian politics | The Guardian” https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/13/labor-misinformation-bill-objections-freedom-of-speech-religious-freedom

    The bill, which has been sent back for redrafting after a strong pushback and wont be introduced to parliament until next year.

    The only serious harm my post might possibly have caused would have been to me, a consequence of the side splitting laughter that some of the responses provoked. Utterly pathetic, and may I say, what increasingly appears to typical of the Australian mentality despite Bearsy’s feeble protest that the legislation in question was very unAustralian. Did he not see what was going on during Covid. Maybe not, but the rest of the world was shocked by the totalitarian behaviour of Australian law enforcement during that time? Perhaps those images were censored by his nanny state government, which if memory serves me correctly, was not Labor.

    Then of course there is the utter hypocrisy of Bearsy and therefore Boadicea as she has not censored his or Cog’s remarks. Bearsy refers to a Cult of Death and Cog refers to ragheads. Hatred and derision, it seems, are a one-way street. There are some seriously pathetic people on this site. And in Gaz, they have driven away yet another good man.

  10. Please excuse (I nearly said forgive, but I do not think that word had context in this community) my over use of the word utter/utterly in the above comment. Of late I have been delving too deeply into the Old Testament (Torah) and that word appears a great deal, as in Deuteronomy Ch20:13-18, Joshua Ch6:20, Samuel Ch15:3. (depending on the version you read). Essentially, the Chosenists are commanded to utterly destroy their enemies. I am not entirely sure that this is sound basis on which to form a creed that will dictate your activities for next few thousand years. To be frank, I prefer a message that talks about love, peace and forgiveness. You know, turning the other cheek as opposed to, an eye for an eye!

  11. First and foremost, let me make it clear that this is MY website and I determine what contents I allow and what I remove. Please read the words under Boadicea’s Chariot: Hic Leges Icenorum Observantur.

    This is the first time I have felt it necessary to enforce those rules, and I do not find it shameful, unwarranted or any other disparaging epithet that might be thrown at me.

    I own to being extremely pro-Israel. And that is partly the result of my mother’s influence, but of more relevance as one who has studied the many centuries’ persecution of one small odd-ball group of people who have maintained their identity (and dignity) for millenia despite having not one place on this planet to call their own. I admire their tenacity. I admire their way of life, and I admire the fact that most have embraced the modernisation of their religion – unlike the Islamic mobs and their supporters screaming ‘From the River to the Sea’ or ‘Gas the Jews’.

    I’m not going into the ‘what-about’ scenario – I am well aware that Israel was not founded peacefully, and there was bloodshed on both sides. But nothing, I believe to match the atrocities of 7th October. And anyone who claims they didn’t happen, despite verifiable proof, or were in any way ‘justified’ has only my contempt.

    I’m also aware that at the time of Israel’s foundation, virtually every Muslim country (of which there are many) ejected their Jewish communities. It took longer for Israel to do similar (it was far more complicated) – but many remained. There are still some 2m Arab Muslims living peacefully in Israel with full citizen rights – apart from, I believe, having to serve in the military.

    The division of land formerly ‘owned’ by the Ottoman Empire was divided up with by far the greater amount going to Jordan, and other Muslim areas. The fact that they and, it would seem, many in the West begrudge world-wide Jewry a tiny sliver of land to call home is, as far as I’m concerned, incomprehensible. Who built the ‘City of Peace’ – Jerusalem?

    I would have allowed discussion of facts – but not ‘conspiracy’ theories and most certainly not Palestinian Propoganda videos. Should anyone wish to look at these there are plenty of sites where they can be found. But not on here.

    Stay or leave as you wish. It is not my way to ban anyone.

  12. Boadicea: Israeli Arabs do not serve in the IDF, but they do national service. When, in 2006, there were advanced plans to create a Palestinian State, the Israelis offered to draw borders along ethnic lines. In exchange for heavily Jewish parts of the West Bank, Palestine would get heavily Arab parts of Israel proper. That went down like a lead balloon with the Israeli Arab population. They had no desire to be part of any Palestine. In fact, support for becoming part of an Arab state among Israeli Arabs is well under 10pc. They might have their issues with various Israeli governments — and Netanyahu is not popular among the Israeli Arab population — but living in a modern country with a high quality of life that provides them with social services on an equal basis is not something they want to give up.

    There are those who would accuse Israel of being an apartheid state. As far as I know, the old South Africa did not have black MPs and universal suffrage. Nor, for that matter, did black African political parties form any sort of coalition government. The previous Israeli government included the Joint List which comprises Israeli Arab parties. There’s a misconception that there are roads on which only Jewish people can drive. That is incorrect. There are roads in highly sensitive security areas in which only cars registered in Israel can drive. Many of those who drive on those roads are Israeli Arabs visiting family in the West Bank. This is done because Israeli authorities want to know who is in that area at all times. Another myth is access to the Temple Mount. In order to prevent riots, Israel does tightly control access — but it’s done very fairly. At certain times, only Muslims can visit for religious purposes. Muslim Israeli Arabs can visit freely with no restrictions. People living in the West Bank can apply for a permit which is, by and large, granted to most people. The only exceptions are young men as they’re the most likely to cause problems and instigate riots — or be instigated to join a riot. Middle aged and older men from the West Bank and boys are allowed to visit fairly easily — as are all women. Israeli security forces are taught to use their discretion when detaining or questioning people. That is why young men, especially young men who display aggressive behaviours, are routinely detained and questioned. I know an Israeli man — Jewish, I should add — who was constantly detained and questioned when entering Israel from overseas. At the same time, there’s none of this silly “oh, let’s pretend to be fair and harass elderly women from Poland visiting on holiday”.

    Much is made of border, pre or post-1967. To begin with, there is no way that Israel is going to go back to its pre-1967 borders. To begin with, the Golan Heights would give Syria/Hezbollah a clear shot at Tel Aviv. Likewise, there are parts of the West Bank that are essentially Israeli at this point. Nor, for that matter, is it practical to partition Jerusalem. As mentioned above, there are actually very, very few people in East Jerusalem who even “want” to be part of Palestine. Israel, like all countries, has its share of inequities. Israeli Arab MKs (Israeli MPs), speak on their behalf in the Knesset and freely seek redress of grievances. The sad reality is that there have been multiple chances at having a Palestinian State. Palestinians have rejected all of them.

  13. Sipu: Your pitiful attempts at insult are barely worthy of reply. Nevertheless, I feel compelled to.
    At times, we’ve agreed on certain points. At other times, we’ve disagreed, albeit civilly.
    On occasion, we’ve butted heads. Israel and anti-Semitism have been the greatest points
    of contention.

    I’ve long tried to understand your positions even if I sometimes found them unpalatable. To a large extent,
    it was possible — just about — to accept it as a product of your life experiences and upbringing.
    Life always provides its opportunities as well as its challenges, but the greatest challenge of all
    is to unlearn things. That includes prejudices, bigotries and biases. Everyone has their share of
    them. It’s part of being human. We’re flawed beings. It’s simply that the prejudices and bigotries
    that were acceptable for a man of your time and place are as shocking to others are ours are to you.
    Working with people in their teens and twenties gives me ample opportunity to keep abreast of what
    new forms of bigotry are deemed acceptable these days.

    I barely skimmed through your rant. It was filled with so much bile and venom that it was hardly worth the effort.
    I read enough rants laced with bile and venom from the more fanatic students. The difference is that, however tedious it might be, I get paid to do that and, as the dosh comes in each month, it makes pushing through easier.
    I’d almost be bothered to point out that the treatment of Jewish people in Imperial Russia was atrocious and that a good many, usually atheists, joined forces with other Russians who were fed up with that decaying system. There were a good many Jewish people who fled Russia in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution as well. That was evidenced in Shanghai. Before December 1941, Jewish refugees were supported by The Sassoons, the Kadoories, etc. That is, wealthy Mizrahim who were British subjects. After December 1941, that fell on White Russian Jews who were not nearly as wealthy, many having lost almost everything as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution. It did not take long for Stalin to start his own anti-Semitic campaigns. After all, it was a way to get rid of some of his rivals. That was enforced elsewhere. One reason why Israel relaxed requirements for Aliyah was because of the depth of anti-Semitism in Cold War Eastern Europe. At this point, I don’t expect a reply. I’ve expended enough effort on this and on you.

  14. It has been a while since I posted my insightful piece which was removed pretty promptly. As Boadicia said, this is her site and she has every right to remove posts and comments of which she disapproved. No argument from me, just disappointment. But with the passage of time, I was wondering if any of the remaining visitors to this site had modified their views with respect to the Palestinian conflict. South Africa has taken Israel to the ICJ, (an event which many will consider to be the height of irony given that countries ethnic cleansing of white farmers) where its advocates made some very hard hitting accusations. Meanwhile the slaughter continues.

    I think that the rhetoric that has been generated by Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders and Zionist enthusiasts, has rather given the game away with respect to their intentions. In fact it has become increasingly clear that the total conquest and occupation of Palestine was always the intent of the Zionists. The chant, from “the river to the sea”, originated with the Zionists, not the Palestinians.

    Then there are the comments of IDF soldiers boasting of how they have willfully killed non combabtants ‘a majority of whom are women and children’. ( That particular wail does irritate me somewhat. First of all why are women and children deemed to be more sacred than men? Secondly, of course the majority of innocents are likely to fall into that category since 50% of adults are female and if you add a few children into the mix, you are going to get a majority.) But I digress. There are numerous confirmed reports of atrocities committed by members of the IDF. That is over and above the relentless and long lasting bombardment that Gaza has suffered over the past 3 and a half months.

    I heard an interesting point of view from one Scott Ritter the former UN weapons inspector and military adviser. Despite some of the more unsavory peccadillos he may or may not have engaged in, his military intelligence credentials speak for themselves and are there for all to see. Ritter has opined that in fact the Hamas attack was not a terrorist action, but rather a legitimate military one and a successful one to boot. The base that was overrun was a military one that was used not just for defence but for intelligence gathering. The people working there were military personnel, of whom 300 were killed. As for the civilians, some, were indeed killed by Hamas, (legitimate collateral damage?) but many others were killed by the IDF in their swift and violent reprisal.

    Just as Israel has accused Hamas of using hospitals for military purposes, there is no doubt that the majority of Israeli kibbutzim had/have military resources including weapons.

    In case you are not aware, Israel has practised a doctrine called the Hannibal Directive. This essentially involves the elimination of Israeli hostages in preference to their being held by their Palestinian enemies. Look it up. Because the military site was an intelligence gathering centre, many of those stationed there were privvy to some very sensitive information concerning Israel’s spies within Gaza. Their capture by Hamas would expose Israel’s sources. Thus their elimination was paramount.

    What is interesting about Ritter’s position is that up until the immeidate aftermath of the attack, he considered himself a friend and supporter of Israel. He had worked with Israeli intelligence for many years to try and reduce the threats from Iran and Iraq. But shortly thereafter, Israel’s actions following 7th October, made him tun against Israel with a vengeance.

    Have a read of this.
    https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/the-october-7-hamas-assault-on-israel?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    Whenever I read the Wikipedia entry of a controversial figure, I find it useful to see whether the entry can be edited. Frequently, for such people, and Ritter is one of them, there is a padlock icon indicating that only approved editors may make changes, thus denying the subject the right to challenge any unfavourable claims or at least provide some balance.

    But if you do not like what Ritter has to say, then I urge you to watch/listen to the very eloquent arguments put forward by the South African legal team at the ICJ.

    Incidentally, I have been accused many times of being an anti-semite. Leaving aside the semantics of such a term, (the majority of Semites are not Jews and the majority of Jews are not Semites) I have been considering to what extent there is truth in that accusation. Until recently, I might have accepted, (not publicly of course, that would be madness) that there was some justification in the charge. But the more I have looked into it, I realise that it is not Jews per se, but Zionism that I so abhor. Zionism truly is an evil creed as any objective, in depth study of its nature and history will demonstrate. Fortunately there is a good number of Jews who vociferously and actively reject Zionism.

    By the way, I decided to repost my original piece on my own blog. I hope Boadicea will not see fit to delete this comment, though of course it is her right to do so. Rather, I hope that it will generate some responses that will extend beyond being labelled an anti-semite.
    http://sipu1.wordpress.com/

    Anyway, here goes.

  15. Indeed Gaz, the vast majority of westerners are blind to the fact that they have been captured by Zionism. They simply won’t contemplate that perhaps they have been taken for a ride. A modicum of research would reveal the magnitude of the danger that this evil cult poses. Instead they simply repeat the chant, “anti-semitism” as if that conveys a higher moral ground and a superior intellect. Fools. The stupidity of these people makes me so angry.

  16. Well, boys and girls, a few months have passed and a few more thousand civilians have been murdered by the genocidal Zionists, including a bunch of aid workers,three British and one Australian. But is there a peep from our merry band of useful, Zionist idiots? No, not a murmur. Boadicea, Bearsy and Christopher, you have shown yourselves to be what I have long suspected, moral, intellectual, cowards. Although, I am being generous with the use of the adjectives, moral and intellectual.

    All three of you, and any others who shared their misguided support of Israel, can only hope to redeem yourselves by acknowledging your pigheaded stupidity. You need to take a leaf out of the Catholic liturgy, “mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.”

  17. Sipu & Gazoopi.

    You both seem to have conveniently forgotten that the war would not have even started had the hostages been released immediately.

    Hamas has said that it doesn’t know where they all are – because they were given to those ‘civilians‘ who are now dying.

    I suspect that most are dead or in such poor condition that if they were released even bigots like you might have a small amount of sympathy for them – and heaven forbid that you or those like you might remember that it was the massacre, torture and abduction of civilian men, women, and children by Hamas and the people of Gaza and the so-called aid agency that provoked Israel to finally take action against the continual harressment of some 20 years. And the rockets have continued to fall on Israel since that day.

    I suspect you, unlike Bearsy and I, have never been to Israel. I, personally, spent a lot of time talking to Israelis, and I was made very aware that there is a indeed a group of what can be called very right wing who are not liked by many. Some of the things they said made my hair stand on end – no one in the West would dare to be so outspoken. So don’t think I just met with a bunch of wishy-washies.

    I affirm Israel’s right to exist and to exist in peace and I still stand with Israel. What the people of Gaza are suffering they have brought upon themselves.

    Don’t bother trying to respond to me. Neither of you will post on this site again. I do not take kindly to be spoken to as you have done. I have left your comment up for the time being so that everyone can see just what has offended me. It will go in time.

  18. Genocide is the planned destruction of a people. For example, the Holocaust comprised multiple genocides. Stalin committed genocide against Crimean Tatars. Under Robert Mugabe, the Shona committed a genocide against the Ndebele in Zimbabwe. In 1994, what happened in Rwanda was very much a genocide.

    There was a genocide in Gaza — on the 7th of October and afterwards, one that was perpetuated by Hamas with active Palestinian support. Women were raped and murdered for being of the wrong religion. Children were intentionally killed in the most brutal ways by Hamas. It is Hamas’s stated aim to eradicate the Jewish people. The 7th of October was the one time they could actually draw blood. It was not the first time they tried it. It will not be the last time if they are permitted to exist as an organisation.

    War is brutal. Urban war is even more brutal. What is worse is when organisations such as Hamas blend civilian and military infrastructure knowing full well that any attack on Hamas’s military infrastructure will come with painfully high civilian casualties. That is, ultimately, on Hamas. Israel has behaved with far more restraint than almost any country would in that context.

    What we have seen over the last half year is a shocking inversion of morality. The United States has inflicted far greater harm in response to a comparatively small attack on the 11th of September 2001. The United States launched full invasions of countries that had nothing to do with the attacks and caused mass destruction. Iraq has still not truly recovered. The United States made an unholy mess of Afghanistan, of Libya, of Syria — all with little justification. Yet, one of the ringleaders of that is making moral pronouncements about the Gaza conflict now. As for aid workers… Do you seriously think this is the first time something like this has happened? Aid workers on the front lines of a conflict put themselves in mortal danger of fire from both sides. The Israelis did not intentionally kill them. Much like the hospital bombing, much like the alleged rape of Palestinian women by the IDF, etc. al Jazeera, the mouthpiece of Hamas, publishes a false story, circulates it and, once the damage is caused, quietly pulls it.

    Frankly, I feel honoured to be attacked by you, Sipu. When the likes of you attacks me, then I know that I have spoken the truth to evil and have done a good deed.

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