Feet on the ground

The younger generation has always inspired disbelief and prophecies of doom among the oldies. It’s a Darwin thing, I suppose. So I anticipated some unpleasant surprises today when I saw a list of the ‘top ten degree courses’ in Olde Englande.

Of course I guessed that academic degrees in subjects which offer few career opportunities would not feature prominently in the list – the days of education for its own sake are long gone! But have a look at this list and maybe you’ll agree that the future seems to be in good hands. Some may pooh-pooh the value of social studies and sports science – but they are both very significant areas of employment and investment.


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9 thoughts on “Feet on the ground”

  1. I fear for the country if neither engineering, nor any form of science, except for computer and sport science, is not in that list. Computer science is really academic, but most people who work in IT are engineers of one sort or another.

  2. Sometimes Janus I wonder what bloody planet you are on?
    Apart from the medical courses a bigger selection of rubbish is rarely to be seen! Most of which will get them precisely nowhere and certainly not a job in the field they require. Graduates in these fields far outstrip the jobs available, they will be lucky to get into retailing with Marks and Sparks!
    Frankly I cannot understand parents allowing their children to waste their time and substance on such a bunch of no hope degrees. Where are the degrees that actually might lead to a job?
    Engineering, maths, molecular biology, chemistry, physics, pharmaceutical chemistry, foreign languages.
    All such as these are deemed ‘too hard’ for today’s little darlings but you don’t see too many of them in the unemployment queue!
    As for design ‘studies’, psychologists, social ‘sciences’ and sports ‘sciences’, they should put the applicants straight into concentration camps or the army just to preserve the rest of us from their ‘kind attentions’!
    Most of them need to be plumbers or electricians and do something useful instead of importing Poles.

  3. Give you that Chris, but the only use for Pashtun is the SAS, or should be!

    There are perhaps too many third rate Universities in the UK still offering English, they need to cut down the intake and beef the course up some.
    I know for a fact that they allow people to read English with out studying AngloSaxon, Middle English, Romance French and Latin, all allowed in modern translation and they still can’t even punctuate! Most of them turn into teachers and perpetrate their ignorance onto the brats in their care. No wonder they are all illiterate!

    I would put a considerable bet that anyone such as yourself with a clutch of Far Eastern languages will never be out of a job at a considerable salary unless you want to be.

  4. Oh dear, what a disaster! We all know how useless most social workers are and how totally not wonderful many graduate nurses are – too posh to wash. If there are so many English studies students, how do we manage to have so many teachers of English who allow so many pupils to leave school illiterate? Very worrying.

    Children need to learn that “hard” subjects are the most useful, but only the private sector seems to be getting this message across.

  5. CO: I will likely go to East Asia to study a couple languages properly. Supposedly I should work for the foreign ministry in East Asian and Latin America.

    What one learns in an English programme now is how to analyse literature to death, how to inject meaning and force works written centuries ago to conform to post-modern prejudices. I could never handle that sort of thing.

  6. Oh dear, nobody seems to share my optimism! 😉

    I would humbly point out that these are but the top ten. Christina’s own list is certainly not far behind!

    Y’see, y’can’t get a decent biz job these days without an biz qualification. Not like in my day. And I think I’d prefer to be cared for by somebody who has run the risk of learning some professional ideas than by somebody off the street.

    It also bodes well for the country that English is so widely studied. You can’t complain about illiterate people and this fact. Cake and eat it time.

  7. The only one I have any knowledge of currently is the computer science course for Techie…. he has offers for later this Summer, and the entry requirements are high (a*, a, a for his first choice – in maths, physic and chemistry)

    I know you are disparaging, Christina, but computer science – though highly subscribed must be very important in this day and age, with most end users of computers having NO IDEA of how they work, how they are put together, how to troubleshoot and program them.

  8. Pseu, if the boy is clever enough to attain A* in math, physics and chemistry at A level he is wasting his time doing a computer degree. Electronic engineering would be a far better option. computer building and working on them can either be picked up as a MSc or just collected along the way as an adjunct. By going for computers alone there is no other quiver in the bow. Most engineers these days with any aptitude at all can build a computer in a couple of hours from a scratch box of ‘bits’. Just because you and I cannot do it does not mean to say you have to spend 3 years learning how. Frankly 3 weeks is a more likely time scenario. I have seen various friends of the boy sitting on the floor squabbling over bits of ‘board’ like kids over lego blocks putting together machines just for fun and it was better than going to the pub!. I have a nephew that builds them out of junk computers and flogs them on Ebay as a sideline.
    Conventional programmers etc have incredible pressure from the far East now for jobs.
    IT people are out of work all over the Western World!
    For heavens sake’s push him into something with a bit more meat in it. Maths and engineering will give him a far higher chance of getting a job in his chosen field.

    The entry requirements for any currently oversubscribed fashionable course are always set that high. It may well be a guarantee of literacy and numeracy of the students but does not necessarily guarantee the calibre of the course.

    I might add that my brother, as senior reader in Physical Chemistry at Nottingham Uni had the final responsibility of overseeing the undergraduate intake for a good 20 years. I have to wonder how and why the careers people are so incredibly ineffective at the schools. If the boy is that good, tell him not to waste his time with anything other than a Russell group Uni.

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