Chairman of the Conservative Election campaign, and now a Minister of Local Government, I think, of whom it was said, “he moves through all this febrility like a hippopotamus through mud: slowly, calmly, and with weird grace”…
Yes, Araminta – but why post a photograph of some pompous pom pollie with a cryptic reference to his size (and do exactly the same thing on MyT)? What is the relevance? Has he recently raped a Swedish car bomber, or expectorated on a copy of the Koran? Can he juggle?
Yes, Araminta – but why post a photograph of some pompous pom pollie with a cryptic reference to his size (and do exactly the same thing on MyT)? What is the relevance? Has he recently raped a Swedish car bomber, or expectorated on a copy of the Koran? Can he juggle?
What is the point?
Hi Bearsy.
Hardly cryptic, size-wise. Calculated insult, in my opinion. Obviously important to Brandwood to draw said size to our attention. Absolutely his right to do so, even if it does not assist our understanding of Eric Pickle’s proposed local government reforms in any way, again in my opinion.
Personally, I like said proposals even if he is fat. Didn’t hurt Churchill to be more than lean(third my opinion of this comment).
As to the MyT mirroring, that is surely Brandwood’s right again? There are people on there who will not comment here. More’s the pity, of course, but he must be interested in their opinions as well as ours. It’s a free world (or is it?).
Climb down John – no one has said anything about double posting here. – so where’s the ‘calculated insult’?
It might be more reasonable to remember that some of us do not know the face of every UK politician, what they do or what they propose doing and to simply answer the questions that we ask – especially when those questions are asked with some humour.
As Bearsy pointed out to me earlier regarding a comment I made about David Hicks, why should anyone in the UK even have heard of his name. I certainly would not mind anyone asking for some enlightenment.
Hi Boa.
For the avoidance of doubt (another of my favourite expressions, as you well know) I was attempting to say that Brandwood’s reference to EP’s size was not ‘cryptic’, in my opinion, even if Bearsy saw it that way. I saw it as a calculated insult by Branwood to said EP, particularly given the fact that he supplied a photograph of the size involved.
And. for the further avoidance of doubt, what was Bearsy’s reference to ‘(and do exactly the same thing on MyT)’ if it was not about double-posting? If I am wrong, I apologise.
So, if you don’t mind, I don’t think that I am inclined to ‘climb down’ in this particular case. Neither Bearsy nor you nor your lack of knowledge of allegedly’pompous pom pollies’ was my intended target in my comment. I regret that you appear to have taken offence to that comment and interpreted it in a way that was not intended by me.
Mention of Winston Churchill reminds me that his grandson, Nicholas Soames, M.P., makes Eric Pickles look like Twiggy.
I am grateful to Wikipedia for this enlightment:
According to the book Women in Parliament published in 2005, Soames has been named as the ‘most sexist’ MP, with several female MPs stating that he has made vulgar comments. One says they retaliated by shouting “click” at him — a reference to a claim that having sex with him was “like having a wardrobe fall on you with the key still in it”. It has been alleged that Soames makes repeated cupping gestures with his hands, suggestive of female breasts, when women are trying to speak in parliament, to sexually harass and distract them from performing politically. He allegedly harassed Alastair Campbell by telephoning him and saying “you sex god, you Adonis, you the greatest of all great men”. Unknown to Soames, he was actually speaking to Campbell’s young son.
The wardrobe quip about Soames is a good one, cwj. However, would the heaviest MP of all-time not be the one, the two of them, Cyril Smith?
I suspect you are correct – Smith would probably have weighed as much as the pair of them together…
So its OK to attack his politics on acount of his silhouette then is it? Somehow the two are linked?
I would suggest he is a complete and utter loon, not based on his circumference but his ‘power to the people’ policies. Complete and utter fruitcake.
We’ve had racist, sexist, ageist, feminist and atheist – why not fattist? 😮
So its OK to attack his politics on acount of his silhouette then is it? Somehow the two are linked?
I would suggest he is a complete and utter loon, not based on his circumference but his ‘power to the people’ policies. Complete and utter fruitcake.
Ferret, you are right to point out that it is his politics that should be held up for criticism rather than his circumference. However, there does seem to be a correlation between excessively large people and self-interest. That is certainly born out in this part of the world and I rather believe it holds true in the UK as well.
Janus,
Because one has cack all to do with the other perhaps?
Doesn’t anyone else find it predictably annoying that at a time when the wayyyyyyy-overpopulated gubmint is enforcing the largest draw-down in local funding, it is also devolving the responsibility for how those meagre funds are distributed away from its own doorstep?
One question? What exactly are we paying these idle leeches to do?
Ah Sipu,
Complete bullshit, but thank you for the input.
Sipu, my adonis-like frame allows me to comment here with impunity! 🙂
Interesting comments. The link I make is in the minds of those who might resent discipline being imposed by someone so patently self indulgent.
Interesting comments. The link I make is in the minds of those who might resent discipline being imposed by someone so patently self indulgent.
That’s a bit of a sweeping comment.
Maybe so, boa, but people make judgements about politicians on all manner of criteria, and it is very British to use physical characteristics. Satirical writing and cartoons rely on such features for their humour. Was it relevant that Prescott had ‘two jags’and was physically unattractive?
Interesting comments. The link I make is in the minds of those who might resent discipline being imposed by someone so patently self indulgent.
As I suspected Tom, and totally wrong to do so. You have no idea why he is so large but feel qualified to judge based on what knowledge exactly?
No knowledge of the man, ferret, but quite a bit about British humour and attachment to physicality.
Tom,
Two jags was very relevant. At the time the transport minister Jezza P, was telling us we all had to use public transport, car share, cycle or walk. It then turns out that the one telling us all this had two fuel guzzling, big Jaguar salloons at his beck and call. Each with a driver so it was possible for both to be on the road when he wasn’t even in them. That is relevant nes pas?
If you were to say, “Your policy is nonsense because you have a face like a slapped arse” on the other hand, you would be guilty of childish, irrelevant, schoolyard insults and basically a bit of a prat.
Sounds like fattism to me. 😦
I am making no remark about policy, but about a prevelent characteristic of the English, their obsession with physicality. I find it laughable in itself that a tongue in cheek remark about a politician should relate to his policies, or be somehow analytical. Ferret, you can scratch around if you wish to find relevance, but tell me what relevance Sarkozy’s lack of height has to his presidency, or Brown’s eye to his Premiership, Cherrie’s appearance to the Blair reign or Prescott’s attachment to food, or his general appearance. If my remark about Eric Pickles labels me a prat, then I appear to be in a broad company. Incidentally, I am bemused by the response to this blog, given that previous blogs on such lighthearted matters as economics drew very few resposnses on this site.
Tom,
You made the reference between Pickles’ cuts, (the title of this post) and then in your text a reference to Pickles need in your opinion to lose weight. It reads as though this man is not able to make budget decisions because he is too fat.
That makes you a grade a pillock in my book.
Ferret, does it hurt?
Tom, I’m afraid you post itself is no more or less than a fattist snipe. How does that make Brits the bad guys here?
Hilarious. Methinks some serious wriggling is about to take place.
Are you sure this post isn’t about Wilfred Pickles? It’s certainly got me chuckling!
Wilfred Pickles or Wilfred Brambell? Or even Branston Pickle?
Ferret & Tom?
Totally different Bearsy.
Assange is shifty, I would bet my small furry tail on it. CO said it best, follow the money.
This is just another cheap shot at the fashionable target of the moment and I find it objectionable.
Sipu your comment was generalised and based in pure fiction. Translation Bullshit.
Ferret –
Assange is shifty, I would bet my small furry tail on it. CO said it best, follow the money.
As some other chap said very recently, and I agree with him – “This is just another cheap shot at the fashionable target of the moment and I find it objectionable.”
😀
In that case Bearsy I apologise.
Ferret, your powers of observation with regards to the human condition appear to be inadequate.
Oh dear, which bit of my smiley didn’t you understand? 😥
Bearsy,
I need to take a breather and sort my fur out. You may be smiling but believe me I most certainly am not.
My bad, mr grumpy today. Sorry to you too Tom, as Sipu states its not like I have never called Charlie boy big ears.
Sipu, you must be very high up indeed if you can observe and categorise the human condition so neatly. Your massive generalisation is exactly what I called it. Bullshit.
No apology called for, Ferret, but I think you are the one in the bowler hat in the picture, or the one in the middle, perhaps.
Tom, I’m afraid you post itself is no more or less than a fattist snipe. How does that make Brits the bad guys here?
I take it that is backside speaking. Join ELF, the English League of Fattists.
Wilfred Pickles !!, that brought back a few memories
“What’s on the table Mable”?
“Tonight, we have Eric on the table, oh…sod it…it just collapsed”.
I can picture Eric Pickles and John Prescott Sumo wrestling, but instead of wrestling for the usual prize, they would be fighting for a mountain of pies! Oh the pain in having an active imagination!
Boadicea's Chariot 
Give me a clue!
Is it Eric Pickles, Tom? He looks seriously gross.
Is he a relative of Wilfred?
Well it sure ain’t Wilfred Pickles.
Whoops Boa, we should have talked! 😀
No, it definitely looks like Eric, chaps:
http://www.ericpickles.com/
… and who is Eric Pickles?
See my link above, Bearsy!
Chairman of the Conservative Election campaign, and now a Minister of Local Government, I think, of whom it was said, “he moves through all this febrility like a hippopotamus through mud: slowly, calmly, and with weird grace”…
Yes, Araminta – but why post a photograph of some pompous pom pollie with a cryptic reference to his size (and do exactly the same thing on MyT)? What is the relevance? Has he recently raped a Swedish car bomber, or expectorated on a copy of the Koran? Can he juggle?
What is the point? 😕
Hi Bearsy.
Hardly cryptic, size-wise. Calculated insult, in my opinion. Obviously important to Brandwood to draw said size to our attention. Absolutely his right to do so, even if it does not assist our understanding of Eric Pickle’s proposed local government reforms in any way, again in my opinion.
Personally, I like said proposals even if he is fat. Didn’t hurt Churchill to be more than lean(third my opinion of this comment).
As to the MyT mirroring, that is surely Brandwood’s right again? There are people on there who will not comment here. More’s the pity, of course, but he must be interested in their opinions as well as ours. It’s a free world (or is it?).
Climb down John – no one has said anything about double posting here. – so where’s the ‘calculated insult’?
It might be more reasonable to remember that some of us do not know the face of every UK politician, what they do or what they propose doing and to simply answer the questions that we ask – especially when those questions are asked with some humour.
As Bearsy pointed out to me earlier regarding a comment I made about David Hicks, why should anyone in the UK even have heard of his name. I certainly would not mind anyone asking for some enlightenment.
Hi Boa.
For the avoidance of doubt (another of my favourite expressions, as you well know) I was attempting to say that Brandwood’s reference to EP’s size was not ‘cryptic’, in my opinion, even if Bearsy saw it that way. I saw it as a calculated insult by Branwood to said EP, particularly given the fact that he supplied a photograph of the size involved.
And. for the further avoidance of doubt, what was Bearsy’s reference to ‘(and do exactly the same thing on MyT)’ if it was not about double-posting? If I am wrong, I apologise.
So, if you don’t mind, I don’t think that I am inclined to ‘climb down’ in this particular case. Neither Bearsy nor you nor your lack of knowledge of allegedly’pompous pom pollies’ was my intended target in my comment. I regret that you appear to have taken offence to that comment and interpreted it in a way that was not intended by me.
Mention of Winston Churchill reminds me that his grandson, Nicholas Soames, M.P., makes Eric Pickles look like Twiggy.
I am grateful to Wikipedia for this enlightment:
According to the book Women in Parliament published in 2005, Soames has been named as the ‘most sexist’ MP, with several female MPs stating that he has made vulgar comments. One says they retaliated by shouting “click” at him — a reference to a claim that having sex with him was “like having a wardrobe fall on you with the key still in it”. It has been alleged that Soames makes repeated cupping gestures with his hands, suggestive of female breasts, when women are trying to speak in parliament, to sexually harass and distract them from performing politically. He allegedly harassed Alastair Campbell by telephoning him and saying “you sex god, you Adonis, you the greatest of all great men”. Unknown to Soames, he was actually speaking to Campbell’s young son.
The wardrobe quip about Soames is a good one, cwj. However, would the heaviest MP of all-time not be the one, the two of them, Cyril Smith?
I suspect you are correct – Smith would probably have weighed as much as the pair of them together…
So its OK to attack his politics on acount of his silhouette then is it? Somehow the two are linked?
I would suggest he is a complete and utter loon, not based on his circumference but his ‘power to the people’ policies. Complete and utter fruitcake.
We’ve had racist, sexist, ageist, feminist and atheist – why not fattist? 😮
Do I detect a bit of sensitivity on the subject, Janus? 😉
Ferret, you are right to point out that it is his politics that should be held up for criticism rather than his circumference. However, there does seem to be a correlation between excessively large people and self-interest. That is certainly born out in this part of the world and I rather believe it holds true in the UK as well.
Janus,
Because one has cack all to do with the other perhaps?
Doesn’t anyone else find it predictably annoying that at a time when the wayyyyyyy-overpopulated gubmint is enforcing the largest draw-down in local funding, it is also devolving the responsibility for how those meagre funds are distributed away from its own doorstep?
One question? What exactly are we paying these idle leeches to do?
Ah Sipu,
Complete bullshit, but thank you for the input.
Sipu, my adonis-like frame allows me to comment here with impunity! 🙂
Interesting comments. The link I make is in the minds of those who might resent discipline being imposed by someone so patently self indulgent.
That’s a bit of a sweeping comment.
Maybe so, boa, but people make judgements about politicians on all manner of criteria, and it is very British to use physical characteristics. Satirical writing and cartoons rely on such features for their humour. Was it relevant that Prescott had ‘two jags’and was physically unattractive?
As I suspected Tom, and totally wrong to do so. You have no idea why he is so large but feel qualified to judge based on what knowledge exactly?
No knowledge of the man, ferret, but quite a bit about British humour and attachment to physicality.
Tom,
Two jags was very relevant. At the time the transport minister Jezza P, was telling us we all had to use public transport, car share, cycle or walk. It then turns out that the one telling us all this had two fuel guzzling, big Jaguar salloons at his beck and call. Each with a driver so it was possible for both to be on the road when he wasn’t even in them. That is relevant nes pas?
If you were to say, “Your policy is nonsense because you have a face like a slapped arse” on the other hand, you would be guilty of childish, irrelevant, schoolyard insults and basically a bit of a prat.
Sounds like fattism to me. 😦
I am making no remark about policy, but about a prevelent characteristic of the English, their obsession with physicality. I find it laughable in itself that a tongue in cheek remark about a politician should relate to his policies, or be somehow analytical. Ferret, you can scratch around if you wish to find relevance, but tell me what relevance Sarkozy’s lack of height has to his presidency, or Brown’s eye to his Premiership, Cherrie’s appearance to the Blair reign or Prescott’s attachment to food, or his general appearance. If my remark about Eric Pickles labels me a prat, then I appear to be in a broad company. Incidentally, I am bemused by the response to this blog, given that previous blogs on such lighthearted matters as economics drew very few resposnses on this site.
Tom,
You made the reference between Pickles’ cuts, (the title of this post) and then in your text a reference to Pickles need in your opinion to lose weight. It reads as though this man is not able to make budget decisions because he is too fat.
That makes you a grade a pillock in my book.
Ferret, does it hurt?
Tom, I’m afraid you post itself is no more or less than a fattist snipe. How does that make Brits the bad guys here?
No it is not!
Let he who has never made derogatory remarks about the Prince of Wales on account of his having large ears, cast the first stone.
Purely for the giggle – http://bearsy.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/spooks/#comment-41184
😀 👿 😎
Hilarious. Methinks some serious wriggling is about to take place.
Are you sure this post isn’t about Wilfred Pickles? It’s certainly got me chuckling!
Wilfred Pickles or Wilfred Brambell? Or even Branston Pickle?
Ferret & Tom?
Totally different Bearsy.
Assange is shifty, I would bet my small furry tail on it. CO said it best, follow the money.
This is just another cheap shot at the fashionable target of the moment and I find it objectionable.
Sipu your comment was generalised and based in pure fiction. Translation Bullshit.
Ferret –
As some other chap said very recently, and I agree with him – “This is just another cheap shot at the fashionable target of the moment and I find it objectionable.”
😀
In that case Bearsy I apologise.
Ferret, your powers of observation with regards to the human condition appear to be inadequate.
Oh dear, which bit of my smiley didn’t you understand? 😥
Bearsy,
I need to take a breather and sort my fur out. You may be smiling but believe me I most certainly am not.
My bad, mr grumpy today. Sorry to you too Tom, as Sipu states its not like I have never called Charlie boy big ears.
Sipu, you must be very high up indeed if you can observe and categorise the human condition so neatly. Your massive generalisation is exactly what I called it. Bullshit.
No apology called for, Ferret, but I think you are the one in the bowler hat in the picture, or the one in the middle, perhaps.
I take it that is backside speaking. Join ELF, the English League of Fattists.
Wilfred Pickles !!, that brought back a few memories
“What’s on the table Mable”?
“Tonight, we have Eric on the table, oh…sod it…it just collapsed”.
I can picture Eric Pickles and John Prescott Sumo wrestling, but instead of wrestling for the usual prize, they would be fighting for a mountain of pies! Oh the pain in having an active imagination!