A little while ago someone on MyT wrote in defence of ‘the rule of law’, arguing that the law must be respected even when we disagree with it. The plea was made because of growing disrespect for the courts and the police. Nowhere in the piece did he mention the need for the offices of the law to respect the will of the people. He argued that anarchy was the only alternative to the rule of law. While that may be correct, one must distinguish between the principle and the practice. What should be done when specific laws, or legal interpretations, disregard the will of the people, and themselves threaten to bring anarchy to the streets? What is to be done when the courts release people like the man on the right, the murderer of Schoolmaster Phillip Lawrence, a man whose lawyer told us, had ‘learned his lesson’. His release was ‘contrevorsial’, but the protests were ignored (As usual). Within months, this creature has been rearrested for a violent crime. The rule of law in specifics seems to be flawed.
Hi Tom. Using the above is a good example of our laws being totally wrong, in these circumstances, and many others too. Taking someone’s life, particularly as violently as he did, has to mean the murderer must spend the rest of his life behind bars and never see daylight again. We have plenty of spare land to build more prisons, and in doing so it would reduce the unemployment figures, loads of jobs as warders available.
Hello, Val. I think you are being too kind, I believe in a life for a life.
There is no justice.
Law as currently practised is for –
It was ever thus.
I am not contemptuous of justice; I reserve that for the law and its running dogs.
You may, of course, disagree.
As long as the do gooders, human rights billionare lawyers, and other so called reformers have sway, this abuse of OUR rights and I mean the vast majority of decent, law abiding citizens of this country, will continue to happen. A short time ago I posted a response in another place saying that prison should be a place of pain, suffering and physical abuse so bad and evil that no right minded person would ever wish to enter one again having been through it. I stand by this, the liberals have had their big experiment, it’s failed miserably, give the prisons over to legal sadists who can practise their dark arts on the inmates who have forfited their rights by being outside of the law by being outlaws themselves.
Why not just lock up the SOB and throw away the key? How hard can it be?
OZ
At moments like these, the hotly denied practice, some years ago, of shoving people out of the back of a Hercules at 12,000 feet over the middle of the Empty Quarter, to save the State the cost of lengthy incarceration, seems quite appealing, if somewhat barbaric…
When it costs more than a Five star hotel to keep people locked up, and the economy is in such deep poo, building more prisons won’t get a look in, but how about mooring the old Ark Royal off Portsmouth, as our very own Devil’s Island?
Pray, tell me. What exactly is barbaric about shoving a convicted murdering scumbag out of the back of a Hercules at 12,000 feet? Some moments of abject terror followed by the big black – just like the victim suffered. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
OZ
Send them to St Kilda and leave them there.
Yep, I’m inclined to agree OZ, bugger more prisons after all.
OZ – we haven’t taken into account the cost of fuelling a Hercules – surely there are more economic alternatives in these straitened times?
CWJ – Make the effer take out life assurance with the RAF refuelling bods named as sole beneficiaries. Then throw him out. Simples!
OZ
Now let me see….
A standard Herc (fat albert) fully fuelled is 45,900 lbs of Avtur or Jet A1 for the civvies.
At average specific gravity, a litre of Avtur weighs approx 2lbs.
So our Herc takes 22,950 litres of jungle juice.
Avtur or Jet A1 is reasonably unrefined and costs approx 70 pence per litre according to the latest spiel from Nookassle Airport.
So the Herc flight comes in at £16,065. Lets call it 16K for cash.
A 5.56 round (bullet for arguments sake) costs the militaire around 26 pence since they tend to buy in bulk.
Extrapolating with a correction factor derived from the price of pork bellies and attenuating the result with a fudge factor drawn from thin air, i calculate that I could off 61,538.46 criminal scum for the price of one Herc sortie.
A Herc can seat 92 combat troops, but we would be stacking the crims up nice and high so I will be generous and say 400 convicts all cozy like.
So…
Cost of airborne, oops style justice = £40 per crim (not accounting for environmental impact)
Cost of drilling the lowlife through the skull = 26 pence this could be recouperated by using the remains in crim fired power installations which could feed the national grid.
Ergo, I could solve the following problems almost overnight:
Dwindling fossil fuel resources.
Prison overcrowding.
High energy bills.
Reoffending rates.
Crime levels.
Prison costs.
No chance of a crim landing on your head at terminal velocity.
No fumigation fees for Aunty Lizs transport aircraft.
Abundant source of high ash content fertilizer.
Plenty of grit to spread on icy surfaces.
Much needed boost to British munitions economy.
Flexibility to accomodate the odd politician.
I’m still looking for the down side here people. 🙂
Sounds a good deal, I like it!
Zen,
It gets better if we lined the thieving, murdering scum up right we could do 5 with one bullet. Saving on overheads and ensuring the firing squad gets to knock off early on a Friday. 🙂
Ferret – I find it difficult to argue with your impeccable logic and therefore defer to the maestro of crime resolution.
😀
OZ
And if any of the bleedin’ heart, namby pamby, yooman rights, wishy washies don’t like it, they can refer to the complaints department.
Equally, perfectly reasonable.
OZ
OZ,
That’s what I thought. 🙂
Right, now what about the economy? Then we can knock off at a reasonable hour.
Bleedin’ Eck Zen,
I don’t have ALL the answers. 🙂
Oh, well…
That’s it, Ferret has it very sensibly sorted, it’s a rap.
Val – Is that a wrap as per film directing or a rap as provided by a dusky, talentless, tuneless young man with too much jewellry and arthritis in his fingers, innit?
OZ
Oops spelling error. Film directing OZ, I don’t do the other crap rap 🙂
Jeez, Val – you’re soooo blonde!
🙂
OZ
Yep, true OZ
cwj, I’ve often had that idea you express so cogently. But I felt that because of their “yooman rights”, the criminals should be given the opportunity to buy a parachute at an inflated (no pun intended) price. Parachutes don’t always work, I believe, but the proceeds should fuel the Hercules. Life insurance wouldn’t work if you couldn’t show a body though. When I read about those Muslim scum who were grooming and abusing young girls, however, my charitable thoughts disappeared. No parachutes!
Val and Oz,
Thats a WRaP, there is an urban legend or backronym. It refers to the process carried out at the end of a days filming with the old 1920’s or so, cine cameras. It stands for Wind Reels and Print.
Furry, you old fount of knowledge you! So that’s what wrap means. Thank you.