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Trump had no choice but to fire Comey

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  1. May 11, 2017 at 7:25 am

    And…?

  2. May 11, 2017 at 10:19 am

    So the US President sacking the FBI is of no interest ?

  3. May 11, 2017 at 11:23 am

    I was just wondering if you had a point of view for us? Do you agree with Gingrich or wha’?

  4. May 11, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    I think it unlikely that Gingrich would lie.

  5. May 11, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    Truth seems to be a stranger to the US scene.

  6. May 11, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    We’re not so great either.

  7. christinaosborne
    May 11, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    There appears to be a consensus developing that he, Comey, was a ‘showboater’ and a ‘grandstander’ and should never have revealed the email fracas of Hilary Clinton and should have been fired there and then. Now seemingly was a bad time to fire him as it puts the spotlight on Trump, just as the FBI was pursuing the investigation of Trump’s previous dealings with the Russians, which will continue anyway.
    Being said by both sides of the house.
    Should the FBI find anything too detrimental about Trump and the Russians it is reckoned to become a Nixon style own goal.
    With the same results.

  8. May 11, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    I find the notion that the Russians hacked the Presidential Election laughable.

  9. May 12, 2017 at 12:15 am

    Hi, jazz.

    Why do you find it ‘laughable’?

  10. christinaosborne
    May 12, 2017 at 1:19 am

    I don’t. both the Russians and Chinese have been up to all sorts of mischief for years. The West seemingly has only recently caught onto it.
    My son was complaining about the chinks ten years ago stealing research from Brum Uni postgrads. He did all his PhD work on a portable drive and used to leave them weird made up research overnight which was a load of crap for them to steal. He warned all the other whites in the department. He ;left traps on his computer to see how many times they poked around on it at night. Unfortunately they were all allowed keys to the department for access. We are far too trusting by half in the West.

  11. May 12, 2017 at 5:28 am

    The Israelis hijacked Zimbabwe’s elections in 2013. But they were paid to do so by Mugabe. Google Nikuv.

  12. May 12, 2017 at 7:01 am

    The Russians, Americans and Chinese are continually trying to hack each other. To that extent the Russians may have obtained information about the election. But the idea that they influenced the outcome is just silly.
    I suppose the establishment needs an excuse for the fact that their preferred candidate lost.

  13. May 12, 2017 at 7:46 am

    I must admit Jazz, I share your view that Russia may have had any meaningful influence on the US elections is just wishful thinking on the part of the anti-Trump brigade. But then one may ask why shouldn’t they try. The US certainly tries and frequently succeeds in influencing foreign elections.

  14. May 12, 2017 at 7:59 am

    I see in the meeja today that the new acting FBI head honcho says the Russian investigations are continuing, Comey was not unpopular and he’s not going to update anybody just yet. Attaboy!

  15. cogitationator
    May 12, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    I agree (remember, you read it here first!) with my wife’s comment about Comey being a “grandstander” and a “showboater.” When even local police departments make it a rule to withhold information on open cases from the media, saying that they are “unable to comment on an ongoing investigation,” what makes it correct for the FBI director to do so? Even so, the timing of Comey’s dismissal is unfortunate. At the very least, no matter what may or may not be revealed by further investigation, the “cause and effect” relationship is sufficiently apparent to make for an “own goal” regardless of the outcome.

    Moving right along here, it is alleged that the Russians hacked both Republican and Democratic websites and presumably obtained certain information. Does anyone actually know exactly what information they are supposed to have obtained and, more to the point, what they did with it? So far as I can see, it’s a new day, the sun is shining (for a change) and our government, such as it is, is still functioning – which is to say tied up in petty squabbles rather than giving its full attention to the matters for which our overpaid public “servants” are overpaid.

  16. cogitationator
    May 14, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    A friend (even I have some) has advanced an interesting theory: that, rather than being as thick as the media increasingly like to portray him, The Only President We’ve Got is so clever and devious that the whole Comey incident was conceived to get so far up the nose of the limp-wristed lefties that they’d fall all over themselves pushing further investigation, only to be hideously embarrassed when nothing incriminating is found. Just a thought.

  17. May 14, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    Cog. I prefer your previously stated opinion:

    ” At the very least, no matter what may or may not be revealed by further investigation, the “cause and effect” relationship is sufficiently apparent to make for an “own goal” regardless of the outcome. ”

    The theory advance by your friend is one I have heard many times about Trump, but only from his most loyal supporters who are beginning to sound just a tad desperate.

  18. cogitationator
    May 14, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    Araminta: As I said, just a thought. The first I’d heard that theory, actually, but then I’m not allowed out very much. Where would we be without such things to distract us from bills and taxes? What would we do without the sheer entertainment value of each new bit of Presidential outrage? We haven’t had the luxury of such amusement since Reagan’s famous radio “sound check” wisecrack:

    “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

    The difference is that Reagan, who had a well developed sense of humour, fully intended to be cracking wise, whereas one is generally rather less than certain that such is the case with the incumbent. At least he hasn’t (yet) gone as far as outlawing and putting a bounty on the Dearly-Beloved-By-All Leader of North Korea.

    Forgive me, all, for going somewhat “off-thread” but, now that I’ve started recalling good Presidents, I can’t resist quoting another Reaganism that’s one of my favourites:

    “I’ve given my aides instructions that if trouble breaks out in any of the world’s hot spots, they should wake me up immediately — even if I’m in a Cabinet meeting.”

    The Only President We’ve Got seems to have no such capacity for self-deprecating humour and, indeed, takes major offense at the slightest slights. That leaves it up to us, the public, to find what entertainment we can in whatever Presidential situation may exist at the time. I can’t help wondering what would happen if I were to say something, say that his inauguration really did draw a much smaller crowd than Obama’s, that’s such a serious affront to his vanity and self-deception as to call my intentions into question by the alleged Presidential mind. The Secret Service could probably make it up here from their Seattle field office in, what, about two hours, plus maybe 15 minutes to pack extra grenades in their black bags and throw them in the car. I’d better leave the front door unlocked to save them the trouble of breaking it down.

  19. May 15, 2017 at 7:05 am

    Cogitate, I doubt that Trump was overly concerned by the size of the audience at his inauguration. After all, he would have expected a low turnout from the swamp that is Washington. More so, given that the capital has a predominantly black population which would have been much happier to see their black president regardless of his abilities. I think any irritation he may have exhibited was based on the fact that the media would have lied about the turnout and almost certainly did their best to play down the numbers whatever they were.

    There is no question that most of the media sets out to belittle Trump at every opportunity, deserved or otherwise, in a manner that they would not have done to Obama, a) because he was black and b) because he was a Democrat. Though I will concede that Obama’s style was far more conventional than that of Trump. But then again, Trump was elected on the promise that he would break convention and that clearly gets up the noses of the msm who have had them in the trough for so long. I suspect Bush was spared an even worse pummelling than the one he received on account of 9/11 having occurred during his tenure.

    The sky has not fallen yet.

  20. cogitationator
    May 15, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    Sipu: Trump was in fact sufficiently lathered up over the crowd size issue to have mentioned it more than once. It seemed strange at the time that he should hammer away at it as he did, which alone suggested that we was indeed overly concerned. While his overreaction may have been touched off by belief that the media were lying, it seemed to become more general a thing as time went on.

    To me, The Only President We’ve Got clearly fits the description of a man who craves adulation and resents it mightily when he doesn’t get as much of it as he imagines is his due. I’m reminded of Cassius Clay’s tagline, “I am the greatest,” but a brief conversation I once had with said pugilist left me feeling that it was all only part of his act and that he was basically a pretty normal and decent guy. In Trump’s case, it goes much deeper. This might be worrisome for the American populace unless it proves to be the worst of his quirks.

    The media not liking to be accused of outright lying (at least not without proof), they were at some pains to subsequently document the crowd size, as witness this:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/national-park-service-inauguration-crowd-size-photos/

    As to the makeup of the crowd, while it’s certainly true that the population of Washington DC itself is predominantly black, people are known to travel from all over the country (and beyond) to such events, at considerable personal expense and difficulty. (More fools they!) Unfortunately, I haven’t yet been able to find any ground-level photos that might reveal what kind of people may have come from where.

    Trump surely hasn’t been making himself many friends, either in the media or in the Government. “Presidential Adviser” is well above my pay grade but I can’t help opining that he might do himself a favor by modifying his style just a tad. Breaking convention is one thing, being a childish vindictive cheap bully quite another.

    Still, as you say, the sky has not fallen yet. I think maybe I’ll hold off a while longer on getting myself a steel umbrella.

  21. May 16, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    The Man has now already started to do himself a favour by modifying his style – almost exhibiting logic – with: ‘As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism’. hasn’t he?

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