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I got this via my old training ship yahoo group. Mods please feel free to delete if it offends. However I think we’re all worldly enough and it makes  the point.

Cameron rapes britania

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  1. June 13, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Appropriate, Jazz! 😎

  2. Boadicea
    June 13, 2016 at 11:39 am

    I’ve just been wandering the web, having picked up a reference to a 19% lead in Brexit – I do so hope it isn’t a furphy* designed to make brexit-voters to think the matter is settled and not bother to vote.

    On my wanderings, I found the following posted by 27bigsy. I returned here, intending to put it in a post but Lo! Jazz you have the right vehicle for this gem:

    Won’t you join our Common Market?’ said the spider to the fly,
    It really is a winner and the cost is not too high,
    I know De Gaulle said “Non”, but he hadn’t got a clue,
    We want you in, my friends and I, for we have plans for you.
    You’ll have to pay a little more than we do, just for now,
    As Herr Kohl said, and I agree, we need a new milch cow.
    It’s just a continental term believe me, mon ami,
    Like “Vive la France” or “Mad Anglais” or even “E.E.C.”
    As to the rules, don’t worry friend, there’s really but a few,
    You’ll find that we ignore them – but they all apply to you!
    Give and share between us, that’s what it’s all about,
    You do all the giving, and we all share it out.
    It’s very British, is it not, to help a friend in need?
    You’ve done it twice in two World Wars, a fact we must concede,
    So climb aboard the Market Train, don’t sit there on the side,
    Your continental cousins want to take you for a ride.

    Some of you may have read this elsewhere – in which case so-sorry! But I thought it appropriate for those who haven’t.

    *Australian for a rumour or story that is untrue or absurd.

  3. sheona
    June 13, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    Boadicea, I too saw this excellent poem. It’s absolutely spot on.

  4. Four-eyed English Genius
    June 13, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Boadicea: I don’t know about 19% lead for Brexit, but I have seen several recent ones with a 5% lead. After the general election fiasco, I am not sure how much you can rely on polls, but I hope they are correct. Some people say it is better to rely on the bookies and at the moment the odds seem to favour Remainiacs but are shortening all the time. Also, given how devious the Remainiacs are, I would not put it past them to use taxpayers money to lay false bets and load the odds. Me, paranoid!?

  5. Four-eyed English Genius
    June 13, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    Jazz: The cartoon sums up the situation nicely, methinks

  6. June 13, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    I’m wondering what the Bremainers will do if they win! They have promised the earth by implication, despite the obvious demise of the Eurozone.

  7. June 13, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    Boadicea: the poll with a 19pc lead was somewhat misleadingly explained. There are a few points over 50pc backing Brexit with a large number of voters still undecided. The poll with a 10pc lead was far more certain, but it was weighed by likelihood to vote. I half-suspect this is partially a ploy to encourage “in” voters to grow more impassioned. They’re significantly less likely to vote than “out” voters.

  8. June 13, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    From The Spectator Magazine Evening Blend email

    Today in brief 13-06-16

    Gordon Brown said Labour voters had the ‘most to gain’ from the UK’s EU membership as he launched a fightback for his party in the referendum campaign…
    …as a new poll from ICM put Leave on 53% and Remain on 47%. European Council president Donald Tusk warned that Brexit could lead to the destruction of ‘Western political civilisation’.
    MPs attacked the Leave.EU campaign for releasing a graphic claiming that the UK is at risk from an ‘Orlando-style atrocity’ if it stays in the EU. Tory chair of the Treasury Select Committee Andrew Tyrie announced he was backing Remain.

    Panic stations

    David Cameron is, according to everyone who works with him, totally exhausted at the moment. The Prime Minister has been campaigning relentlessly for Britain to stay in the European Union for months ­ and today he got a bit of time off. This wasn’t really because he fancied having a rest, but because the Remain campaign has realised that what they really need in this campaign is someone who will get the Labour vote out, as it is looking less motivated and less in favour of staying in the EU than they thought. So Cameron is taking a back seat for a while and letting senior Labour figures dominate the airwaves to try to deliver those Labour votes. Tomorrow Jeremy Corbyn will give one of his rare speeches on Europe. Today it was the turn of Gordon Brown to make one of his late­in­the­campaign interventions, as he did with great success in Scotland (and with considerably less success in the Labour leadership contest).

    The former Prime Minister’s relaunch of the Remain campaign today was not an unmitigated success. As part of his attempts to speak to Labour voters, Brown ended up picking a fight with a journalist from the Sun. When the paper’s Craig Woodhouse asked whether accusing the BBC of having an agenda on immigration was implicitly dismissing the concerns of Labour supporters, Brown’s response was to accuse the Sun of having an agenda too, opposing immigration for years.

    Behind the scenes, Remainers on the Labour and Tory sides alike are alarmed by how unpredictable the Labour vote is turning out to be in this referendum. It had been assumed at the start of this campaign that Tory voters would divide over Brexit, but Labour voters just needed to be persuaded to turn out. Now, many Labour MPs are concluding that getting out the vote in their constituencies might not work in their favour. One says: ‘They’ve finally spoken to some working class voters and discovered their enthusiasm for immigration is not widely shared. Who knew?’ That senior MP is, like many of his colleagues, annoyed with the leadership, including Alan Johnson, for being so lacklustre, adding: ‘the others are incapable or unwilling to address concerns about immigration in an authentic way’.

    Perhaps, though, it was naive for Labour MPs to hope that their party would fix its problem with immigration, which it has been wrestling with for years, in time for the referendum. But the mood amongst Labour MPs now does rather resemble the surprised panic among Scottish Labour MPs last year as they realised that they didn’t have quite the handle on their voters that they thought as they approached the election.

    With the jitters over the Remain vote, and today’s ICM poll putting Leave six points ahead, you might be forgiven for picking up a whiff of panic in Westminster today. Perhaps that’s why Donald Tusk decided that now was the moment to produce an even more ludicrous pro­Remain warning than any of those that have gone before. Brexit, he told Bild ‘could be the beginning of the destruction of not only the EU but also Western political civilisation in its entirety’. Well, that certainly beats a bit of dark talk about house prices and cheap flights.

    Does visible panic damage the Remain campaign? It may be just what it needs to mobilise its demotivated voters into actually getting out and backing Britain staying in. Few envisaged Project Fear involving frightening people into the polling booth for fear the referendum could be lost without their vote. But that’s where we’ve ended up.

  9. June 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    I think the referendum campaigns have proved beyond doubt that the UK’s elected gubmint is a flock of headless chickens.

  10. June 13, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    This just might give our political system the shake up it needs. I just love this excerpt from the Spectator in my last comment.

    “…..but Labour voters just needed to be persuaded to turn out. Now, many Labour MPs are concluding that getting out the vote in their constituencies might not work in their favour. One says: ‘They’ve finally spoken to some working class voters and discovered their enthusiasm for immigration is not widely shared. Who knew?’ …”

    Looks like reality is finally permeating the political bubble…..it had to happen one day.

  11. Boadicea
    June 13, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    One reporter visited a number of Yorkshire towns, Labour strongholds. Few people seem to have bothered to listen to the debates – loathed the Tories and all they stood for – and thought that Labour leaders hadn’t got a clue either. Virtually all wanted out – and that included first and second generation immigrants from the Commonwealth. I’m not sure whether Brown or Corbyn will be able to shift their vote. Neither are living with the problems of over-immigration. It’s amazing how people’s opinions change when they are personally hit with waiting queues for GPs and hospital beds…

  12. June 13, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    We are at risk of having 3500 houses visited upon our village. This massive demand for housing has to be down to immigration. If things go on as they are there is a serious chance of public unrest.

  13. Boadicea
    June 13, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    Last year I met a couple from a small Devonshire village – only it wasn’t so small anymore. A great number of houses had been built for Londoners only. They were singularly unimpressed that no locals were going to be given housing.

    I used to have long arguments with my mother about unlimited immigration – she insisted that Britain needed the labour. My argument has always been get those who refuse to work working first and then take in what you need. Odd how her views have changed in the last few years since she can’t get a GP appointment, or a hospital bed, or much else for that matter …

  14. Boadicea
    June 14, 2016 at 2:51 am

    I don’t know how accurate this is:

    In order to match England’s population density of 413 people per square kilometre, European countries would have to take in the following numbers of migrants: Austria 26.4 million, Denmark 12.4 million, France 162.3 million, Germany 65.6 million, Greece 42.8 million, Italy 64.7 million, Poland 90.5 million, Spain 162.1 million, Sweden 176.3 million. Furthermore, if England had the same population density as France, it’s population would be 14.5 million

    Even if only partially true it might explain why so many people in the UK are extremely concerned about uncontrolled immigration..

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