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Just come back from two hours leafleting in the drizzle with a renewed admiration for postmen. Why do some idiots have letter boxes at the base of their doors ??

In the meantime some light reading:-

…..Chris Grayling: We must Vote Leave to protect our sovereignty and democracy from further EU integration


Chris Grayling MP, Leader of the House of Commons, delivered a speech today at Vote Leave on the risks of staying in the EU, and what lies ahead if we vote to ‘remain’ on 23 June.

 Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen.

For the past few weeks you have been hearing regularly from the Remain campaign about how they believe we should stay in a “reformed” European Union.

This morning I want to set out for you the reasons that they are right about the fact that the European Union is going to reform, but how the inevitable reform that is coming our way is very different to what they are claiming.

The Remain campaign keep challenging us about what they call the risks of leaving the European Union. This morning I want to set out for you in detail the risks of staying in, and what lies ahead of us if this country votes to remain in the EU on June 23rd.

And I want to stress very clearly to the people of this country that on June 23rd they are not voting on staying in, or leaving the EU as it is today. They are voting for or against being part of the EU as it must become over the next decade. And that new look EU will be very different.

The seminal moment for the European Union came seventeen years ago with the creation of the single currency. In my view the countries that joined the euro created the economic equivalent of the San Andreas fault. They tried to create a single economy in a geographic area where there was no single government, no common culture or commonality of performance, and where the traditional escape valves when things went wrong in underperforming nations simply disappeared.

So the countries of Southern Europe ran up massive deficits, leading the life of Riley off the back of a strong currency, whereas in the past the drachma and the lire would have fallen sharply on the exchange markets, forcing those countries back to a degree of rectitude. At its simplest, the Greeks didn’t pay their taxes, retired at 55 and hoped someone else would pay the bill. And in the end they did – the Germans, the European Central Bank, and the IMF stepped in to prevent an all-out collapse.

But you can’t go on doing that. In a single currency area, if things look doubtful, the wealthy transfer all their money to safe havens in places like Frankfurt. The run on local banks brings them down, and the resulting collapse affects all. So no rescue is not an option.

That’s where the Eurozone finds itself now. And it cannot carry on that way. They’ve managed to stabilise things once, but it’s hard to see how they could withstand another major shock.

But there’s no easy solution either. You can’t just kick a country out of the Eurozone without creating that massive collapse either. If Greece had been forced out of the Euro, it would have been left with a devalued currency, unable to afford to pay its Euro-denominated debts. It would have defaulted and left massive losses across the continent.

So the inevitable future is beginning to take shape. As my former Government colleague, the former UK Foreign Secretary William Hague once said, the Euro is like a burning building with no exits.

They have to make it work.

And that means political union. There is no other way. There has to be a single Government structure for the Eurozone. There has to be a United States of the Eurozone.

The plans are already taking shape. Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, her deputy Wolfgang Schauble, the Italian Finance Minister, the French President Francois Hollande, the Speakers of the biggest Eurozone Parliaments, the Presidents of the big EU institutions have all called for political union.

It’s not idle chatter. It’s become a recurring theme of speeches, articles and interviews across the European Union.

Political Union means, according to Hollande, a Eurozone Parliament, a common budget and a common cabinet. Inevitably it means giving up independent nation status. “It’s not an excess of Europe but a shortage of it that threatens us,” he’s said.

Angela Merkel has said: “We need more Europe, we need not only a monetary union, but we also need a so-called fiscal union, in other words more joint budget policy,”

“And we need most of all a political union – that means we need to gradually give competencies to Europe and give Europe control,” she added.

Last summer the Italian Finance Minister Pier Carlo Padoan called for a common budget and a common unemployment insurance scheme, perhaps even an elected eurozone parliament alongside the existing European Parliament and a euro zone finance minister.

Then the Five Presidents Report, produced by the Presidents of the European Commission, the Council, the Parliament, the Central Bank and the Eurogroup started to set out what would happen in much more detail and with a clear timeline over the next ten years, aiming to complete the work by 2025. The report is very broad ranging and all-encompassing.

“Progress must happen on four fronts: first, towards a genuine Economic Union that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a Financial Union that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union 5 Union. Third, towards a Fiscal Union that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a Political Union that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening. All four Unions depend on each other.”

It’s a view shared in many of the national parliaments of the Eurozone. Last September the Speakers of the Parliaments of Italy, German, France and Luxembourg combined to agree a vision statement for the future of the Eurozone and the EU. It called for a rapid progress of integration, and a broad ranging one at that. They recommended that….

“The on‐going integration process should not be limited to the field of economic and fiscal matters, or to the internal market and to agricultural policy. It should include all matters pertaining to the European ideal ‐ social and cultural affairs as well as foreign, security and defence policy. “

Now each time I talk about this renewed drive towards integration in this campaign, those on the Remain side tell me it will never happen, that there is no political support for it, that it is just a scare story, and in any case we won’t be affected.

Well let me tell them how wrong they are.

The process is already under way. And we will be affected whether we like it or not.

The Commission in Brussels is now embarking on a process that will lead to much deeper integration than we have even seen before now. Don’t believe me? Then listen to the man driving this next stage of change. Jean Claude Juncker. In his so-called State of the Union Speech last autumn.

“As part of these efforts, I will want to develop a European pillar of social rights, which takes account of the changing realities of Europe’s societies and the world of work. And which can serve as a compass for the renewed convergence within the euro area.

This European pillar of social rights should complement what we have already jointly achieved when it comes to the protection of workers in the EU. I will expect social partners to play a central role in this process. I believe we do well to start with this initiative within the euro area, while allowing other EU Member States to join in if they want to do so.”

Fine, so it only applies to the Euro member states. So we aren’t affected. Are we? Well actually we are…

The Social Pillar consultation was launched in Brussels in February. It’s clear where it is designed to end up.

“The pillar of social rights should be a self-standing reference document, of a legal nature, setting out key principles and values shared at EU level.”, it says.

And the Commission has set out the areas covered by the process.

Among these are many areas where we already have protection or would want better protection in the UK.

They include:

  • A right to minimum pay;
  • Minimum measures to ensure awareness of rights and access to justice;
  • Access to lifelong learning and skills; and
  • Access to basic social services, including health care.

Let me make clear that I do not want to see social rights and protections diminished if we vote to leave the EU.

The point however is whether it is for the EU or for the people of the United Kingdom to control our rights and protections.

If we vote to remain in the EU then it would be EU rules that would determine our minimum wage, EU rules that would say how our pensions work, it would be EU rules to govern our skills system and even EU rules that would tell us how health services should work.

But that’s the Ever Closer Union that we are supposed no longer to be part of.

And this package is only for the Eurozone.

So what’s the problem.

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, the problem is this.

We have an opt-out from the Euro.

We have an opt-out from the Schengen Area

We have an opt-out from some Justice and Home Affairs measures.

But on everything else we have no opt out. We are subject to every law introduced by the EU and in the Eurozone.

On banking and financial services.

On business regulation.

And on EU social policy, on the so-called Social Europe, we have no opt out.

So we have a new list of EU social policies which will deepen integration across the Eurozone. But these will be EU laws passed in the normal way. There is no other method of doing so right now. And we have no opt-out from them.

Many of these measures will be things we already do well; some may be measures we would want in the UK.  The point is that it should be up to us to control what happens to the NHS, to workers’ rights and to social protection and control over these areas should not lie with Brussels.

So when there are new EU rules on pensions, skills and health, they will apply to us too. It means the EU starting to set the rules for our NHS. With no opt-out. And millions more people able to access our free at the point of delivery service as countries like Albania, Serbia and then Turkey join the EU.

And this is why we are not at all exempt from Ever Closer Union. Because the nuts and bolts of integration will come from new EU laws passed under the terms of the Lisbon Treaty.

The Lisbon Treaty itself is a huge part of the problem.

It is vaguely worded, and gives both the Commission and the European Court of Justice free rein to expand their brief and take over competences from the member states.

It’s already happened. Under the Treaty individual countries are supposed to be responsible for social security. But the European Court decided that the free movement rights of the European Citizen were more important, and now the EU controls more and more aspects of our benefit system. A treaty we signed in good faith is being rewritten by a Court whose president made a speech saying the job of the European Commission is to resist Euroscepticism.

So what happens now then?

Well, nothing until after June 23rd. We know the Commission is on its best behaviour right now. Everyone in Brussels is under strict instructions not to rock the boat. Frankly I am surprised that they have even started the consultation on the Social Pillar now.

But the decision to delay anything controversial in Brussels until after our referendum is an open secret there. Legislation is being held back. The budget is being held back. The EU institutions are in lock down until the British decision is done and dusted.

But if we vote to remain, the plans move full steam ahead.

And just remember. This is not a political flight of fancy. They have no choice. The Eurozone cannot be confident of its survival unless they follow down this road. It was the Italian Finance Minister last year who said a move “straight towards political union” is the only way to ensure the survival of the common currency.

And Britain? What happens to us?

Our influence will diminish.

Our sovereignty will diminish.

Our ability to look after our own national interest will diminish.

There will be no “reformed European Union”, British style.

Instead we will be subject to most of the integration that the Eurozone is poised to embark upon whether we like it or not. We will have little or no say in what they decide is necessary to pursue their goal of political union.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is not for us.

I want us to live in an independent sovereign country. I want us to take back control of our democracy.

If we all want that, there is no alternative for us. On June 23rd we have to Vote Leave.

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  1. June 1, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    That’s a world record for cut and paste! Maybe shorten the home page post a tad? 😎

  2. christinaosborne
    June 1, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    This, of course, has been painfully self evident to anyone with an IQ above 120 for several years. Unfortunately how many of the average citizenry have got the nous to see it?
    (Back to my ‘They shouldn’t have the vote syndrome’ Unfortunately they have!!)
    I think it may be a sight easier to convince most, of ‘hordes of wogs right up their street’ syndrome instead!
    At least you can see a wog but a little more difficult to picture a fiscal deficit. (A galloping raptor maybe?)
    No, a dystopic snake pit full of bright red snakes consuming each other until only one gross fat individual is left decorated with swastikas.

    Cameron must know this, he can’t be that self delusional, so what is in it for him? Does the fucker seriously think he gets to be top dog in Europe? God rot him for the traitor he is.

    I hear you on the letter boxes. About time they moved to easy access from the street as in the USA, especially in the rural areas. It explains why postage is so expensive in the UK compared with elsewhere. Ludicrous delivery system runs up costs hideously.
    Seemingly the polls are going the other way now, good.

  3. June 1, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    I entered a ‘read more tag’ on the initial post but it didn’t work, have done it again and it has. Happy now Janus ?

    Christina, there is now real hatred for the establishment. I haven’t seen anything like it before, this isn’t the usual grumbling. If we lose this referendum there is going to be real trouble.

  4. June 1, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Jazz, I am SO happy. 😎

  5. June 1, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    The EU will collapse. Brexit would be a mercy for the continent.

  6. christinaosborne
    June 1, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    jazz, I agree. It was noticeable whilst I was there in the spring. people were positively vitriolic re Westminster.
    Very much let us rerun Guy Fawkes now for real!
    Whether this will translate into serious trouble who knows if the remains win.
    Everyone I know thinks the whole thing has been rigged and that the government should have remained neutral throughout, just presented the pros and cons. Instead we have had project FEAR to intimidate the faint hearted, EU citizens given voting cards and a guaranteed rigged postal vote with 20 coupons for every wog household in the country!
    And, as usual, expats and some military denied the vote!

    People are not happy bunnies!
    I don’t aspire to nutter conspiracy theories, but one seriously begins to wonder just who is driving all this?

    Also interesting that the same is happening here too. The whole Trump thing is roughly the equivalent of the Brexit. Same thing, the few making out like bandits at the expense of the whole society. Croneyism, not taxing corporations, politicians in the pockets of the banks. The list goes on and on.
    Needs a thorough cleaning of the Augean stables.
    I do hope Trump and Brexit win. How to upset the world wide applecart of the fat cats.
    So times will be rough.
    Needs to be.
    The whole place is uglier than I have seen it in a lifetime.

  7. June 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    I really believe you are right Christina, nevertheless I do not like angry people, this does make an ugly place even uglier, there must be other ways to tackle all the problems. Please do not believe that Trump is not ugly either, at least he does not look very attractive and I think his insides look the same as he appears.

  8. June 1, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    FoE: Americans, with a fair number of exceptional examples exempted, are unhinged savages after their thin veneer of gentility is scratched. The English are far quieter people who are much less prone to collective rages and anger. When, however, the English are pushed too far and their collective patience snaps they are some of the nastiest, most unrelenting people. For the English to have been pushed to this point shows that things have been allowed to go on for far too long and far too far. Trump’s looks aside, he has tapped into a deep vein of working class disenchantment in the same way that Le Pen, Wilders, Åkeson, Petry and Farage have. I hope that they don’t gain power, but that they force moderate forces to grasp reality again. Donald Tusk seems to have acknowledged this reality, if the likes of the disgraced Jean-Claude Plonker, Angela Honecker, Renzi and Hollande do not grasp this they will face more consequences than they can imagine.

  9. christinaosborne
    June 1, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    I like angry people, they tend to string people up from lamposts and erect guillotines.
    “For the encouragement of the others!”

    Jolly good, changes the snouts in the trough from time to time.
    Only way to tackle any problem at the end of the day eradication.
    Sweetness and light gets one absolutely nowhere fast. Never did.

    I wonder if anyone ever tried to stop an Assyrian war chariot with an olive branch? Not successfully I’ll be bound!

    Christopher, when it comes down to it all humanity is pretty much the same, bloody obstreperous when pushed too far!

  10. June 1, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    CO: oh, absolutely! The only question is of time. Many Americans trouble me as they tend to overreact and cause more problems than necessary. They then pretend that it was a minor disruption in the glorious unfolding of their history of unmatched progress and scream down anyone who points out the obvious. The English simply let things go on too far and then snap. The Japanese are quite similar in that respect. Perfectly wonderful people, but once things spiral out of control their brutality is unspeakable.

    Europe is starting to look a lot like 1848, the minor skirmishes of 1830 didn’t get the point across, nor did the disruptions of the past two decades. I won’t shed a tear for the collapse of this order. Narrow nationalism isn’t necessarily a good thing, but putting national interests last is even more dangerous.

  11. christinaosborne
    June 2, 2016 at 4:48 am

    Christopher, fair crack!

  12. June 2, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    Jazz, the post, yes. It is already mandatory here to have a post box next to the road access, so that the postperson can do the biz without leaving a sedentary position in a van or on a bike (normal in cities). Now the regulat letter ‘service’ is to be reduced to a guarantee of delivery within FIVE days at £2 a pop! Nothing sent by post is now urgent, allegedly – unless you want to register it. 😡

  13. christinaosborne
    June 2, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    Bloody hell Janus, you mean a post non-service that is WORSE than the UK? AND more expensive.
    Totters offstage left gasping!
    Are you serious, a letter costs 2 quid?
    About 27 pence here.

  14. June 2, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    CO: Royal Mail aren’t that bad! You should see Deutsche Post or China Post, they’re both terrible! It’s 33p in Canada’s benighted southern neighbour, by the way — still extremely reasonable considering the size of the place.

  15. christinaosborne
    June 3, 2016 at 1:24 am

    and bloody fast 5 days UK to West Coast rural ain’t bad!

  16. June 3, 2016 at 7:46 am

    CO: For the most part, yes. There are “special moments”, but that is universal.

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