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The unkindest cut of all

September 25, 2012 Leave a comment Go to comments

If you’re squeamish, read no further! This is about a song tradition to rival rock.

The latest medical debate is whether it’s testosterone that shortens men’s lives. Witness for the prosecution: a Korean study that cites eunuchs as living much longer than men with their faculties intact, sorry unmolested, er, you know what I mean. For the defence: it may just be their pampered lifestyles that protects them from an earlier demise. A third source (Backside) avers that they simply avoid the trouble and strife – which must promote longevity!

Whatever. Even if it’s true I don’t envisage queues of 8 year old boys at the clinic for the snip – even if today’s procedure is relatively humane and some of them could join the King’s College choir for life. What is a long life without those teenage traumas of love and rejection, followed by subsequent bouts of much the same for another 60-odd years? Generally speaking (sorry, Sipu) I reckon irreversible mutilation of the body is a BAD THING. Like tattooing for example. One feels such a prat when it goes out of vogue.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19699266

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  1. September 25, 2012 at 9:25 am | #1

    “Generally speaking (sorry, Sipu) I reckon irreversible mutilation of the body is a BAD THING.”

    Que?

  2. September 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm | #2

    Well, they do say that people who can’t have fun live the longest…
    I’m also sceptical about this. Eunuchs lived very sheltered lives.
    In fact, the reason why they lost their dangly bits was that their main
    purpose in life was to mind the king/emperor’s harem. Scholar-officials also
    often lived very, very long lives.

  3. Janus
    September 25, 2012 at 5:46 pm | #3

    Sipu :

    “Generally speaking (sorry, Sipu) I reckon irreversible mutilation of the body is a BAD THING.”

    Que?

    Sipu, I was breaking my rule about generalising!

  4. Janus
    September 25, 2012 at 5:48 pm | #4

    Christopher, the successful ‘castrati’ lived to ripe old ages too but the rest probably died young – being unemployable freaks.

    My maternal grandmother had no fun in her life and lived to 96!

  5. September 25, 2012 at 6:38 pm | #5

    I guess discovering the optimal age for testicular termination to lead to testosterone cessation would be a difficult experiment to carry out. I mean, is it better to loved and lost, or never to have loved at all?

  6. September 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm | #6

    Eunuchs probably don’t go bald either….

  7. September 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm | #7

    Janus: I was thinking about the Chinese context. I rarely even think about the Western world in general any more. The Chinese eunuchs had a distinct purpose.

    Pseu: oh, if you only knew some of the stories from the inner-confines of the Chinese palace!

  8. September 25, 2012 at 7:09 pm | #8

    And you do, Christopher? :)

  9. September 25, 2012 at 7:31 pm | #9

    Pseu: oh, I have a few juicy tidbits…

  10. September 25, 2012 at 8:11 pm | #10

    I read somewhere, in some historical novel or other, that eunuchs in Chinese palaces were renowned for their viciousness and spite. Perhaps unfair to generalise etc, but I can’t help but wonder if on a biological level, they didn’t have the worst of both sides; the spite of the female, the aggression of the male, and no way of releasing frustration of any kind.

  11. September 25, 2012 at 8:26 pm | #11

    Claire: should you are anyone else be interested I would be happy to write a brief post over the weekend about eunuchs in China.

  12. September 25, 2012 at 8:48 pm | #12

    That would be interesting. I gleaned some ideas from a novel called the last Empress, I think. I also remember seeing the film Farinelli in France about 20 years ago. That gives a very sad, poignant perspective of the eunuch’s tale.

  13. September 25, 2012 at 8:56 pm | #13

    Yes, please, Christopher.

  14. christinaosborne
    September 25, 2012 at 10:52 pm | #14

    There remains one recording of the last castrati in existence, made around 1902. Moreschi born 1858.
    Today, rather than indulging in libidinous claptrap, the music is sung falsetto by counter tenors or children.
    It takes a great deal of practise to keep the adult male voice able to achieve said, generally vertical rather than horizontal!
    Castration was officially banned by the Pope in 1903.

  15. Janus
    September 26, 2012 at 6:25 am | #15

    CO, I had to smile at your last line! Maybe some of the RC church’s problems would have been avoided if he’d suggested his mates should have the operation.

  16. christinaosborne
    September 26, 2012 at 7:14 am | #16

    Ain’t that the truth!

  17. September 26, 2012 at 6:19 pm | #17

    When i look at some of the trolls and sub human life inhabiting our towns I feel castration and forced sterilisation is a good thing.
    I mean come on now if we had had abortion then Nick Clegg would not be with us ;-)

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